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- 08.03.2012 #11Road Train Member
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yap thats it. becaise no ticket you have nothing you can fight. don't you just love csa.
- 08.03.2012 #12Heavy Load Member
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Violation #s on the inspection. You can DATA Q the violations even if they don't issue a ticket,pointless because you admit that they exist,not that the DOT made a mistake.
- 08.03.2012 #13Bobtail Member
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well aint that a ##### guess I'm stuck with em how many points are bad? I've never had any driving local
- 08.03.2012 #14Heavy Load Member
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If they stacked up the violation(s) then DATA Q.
- 08.03.2012 #15Bobtail Member
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Thank you gentelmen
- 08.04.2012 #16Medium Load Member
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You do not have points! [Not yet anyway!] Your employer has another inspection on HIS record w/ the points mentioned.
The PSP report any prospective employer gets will have the last 5 years of accidents that ended up on your employer's report [a lot of them do not get there!] and every inspection you had for the last 3 years showing the violations for each along with the name and DOT number of the motor carrier. It is a snapshot and shows the violations so anyone reading the PSP report will see it was equipment related VRS a driver issue like no medical or a log problem.
Your employer does not under stand the CSA.
- 08.06.2012 #17Road Train Member
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Allot of partly correct answers here.
When you receive an inspection and they find anything, or even on a clean inspection, where they had cause to pull you over ( like speeding 1-5 over, lane issue or any other excuse), you will receive points on your PSP and your company's CSA scores.
If you beat a ticket in court. As in thrown out, etc. So now it does not exist. You still have to do a Data Q, and they do not have to remove the points. They might, but most of the time they will not, and are not forced too.
If you receive a warning. You cannot go to court to fight it. But you can still do a data Q. If you feel that you are not guilty or some other reason. Once again. They might take it off. But probably will not.
Any Ticket, warning, etc. That you received in the past 3 years, and had an inspection with it will be on your PSP. And it will be on the CSA score of the company you were working for, for 2 years. Crashes are for 5 on driver, and I believe 3 years on carriers.
There has been a lawsuit filed about fact that PSP scores show all points, even those of tickets that have been beat. In most states the data Q goes to the officer that wrote the ticket. In most cases the officer will say that it did happen, and that they will not sign off to have it removed. Even if the violation was beat in court.
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- 08.25.2012 #18Bobtail Member
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We had a mudflap on tractor violation ticket. In our state it says that they are required "except on a truck tractor". Went to Data Q, and it was denied. So I guess they get to write the rules anyway that they want to. Don't expect many challanges to be approved.
- 08.25.2012 #19Road Train Member
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I once received a level I roadside inspection and the officer erroneously gave me a violation for a chip on the windshield. I wasn't sure whether he was right or wrong at that moment. But then I read the code, measured the chip and realized he was wrong. So, I took many pictures of the chip with a ruler to show that was not a violation according to code so and so. Went to Data Q and challenged it with pictures. Also called DOT and FMCSA for a while (3 months) and DOT faxed me (my company) a clean roadside inspection to replace the dirty one.
Then, I called FMCSA office in GA and person told me violation and points were removed. I have still not checked that online because I don't want to spend money on this ####. But I will someday and if they are still there, I will go to that FMCSA office in person...
- 08.25.2012 #20Road Train Member
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This #### about warnings causing more damage to a driver's record than tickets has to change. It's just not right, if a warning is something of much less importance than a ticket so why does it carry the same amount of points as a real violation... and can't be fought??? These clowns who came up with this "severity" point system gotta go. Trucking industry must force legislators to review this.
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