The points are a mathematical equation. Each violation you receive you get X points. Since the charges are new the actual value of the points is 3X and then it will drop to 2X and the 1X. So your 12 point s is really a 4 point violation multiplied by 3 and if memory serves me correctly each year it drops so a year from now it will be 8 points and then 4 points.

I think the thing you might want to look @ is something referred to as "stacking" or "piling on" where they write multiple tickets for the same violation. I think you might have some luck in getting the points on one of the tickets removed.

What you want to do is referred to as a "DATA Q CHALLENGE"> I have no experience in this so I can't help you. I would suggest you speak with OOIDA or someone else that has experience in doing this. You only get ONE kick at this and you want it done right.

Good luck to you on this.

did you get a ticket or just a warning....?

I only received one ticket. I will thanks for your input

DATA Q is for when you don't believe the violations are correct/didn't exist. You admit to the two problems,just don't want to be responsible for them.

if you fight the ticket and win you can get the points for it removed any points on a warning you are stuck with

Wichris No sir if I wanted a smart ### answer I would have gone somewhere else. It was my failure to find the problems on my pre trip I take responsibility for them. I don't feel that getting points because my breaks had failed when in fact they had not is incorrect I qpprecciate you telling me how to dispute this. Your comment is uncalled for.

Flood Just a repair order no fine or anything. I don't know whether you would call it a ticket or not. But it is my understanding that the points come from the inspection report. My problem is that I feel the inspection report and what they are giveing me points for are two different things.

That wasn't how i meant it. You don't deny the problem. What are the CFR# ?

warning points CAN'T be appealed