Cracked brake pads,

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  1. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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  3. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    But from where the crack is located could extend inward thru the shoe material to the rivet area, which is part of the rule. I had to pull off a set of steer shoes for a similar but smaller crack.
     
  4. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Yet the trucks with a fuel tank being held on with a strap & a trail of oil running out the bottom will just roll on by.

    I changed mine out for the same reason on the steer axle that were well over 50% left on them & only gross 64,000 lbs max.
    What I failed to do was ask if there are different grades of brakes pads & probably should have upgraded at that time.

    So chains don't wear out & dirty dashes are the ultimate problem of the trucking industry? Really?
     
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    Lol, I appreciate you bringing that info forward Scalemaster as I searched all over for it. I knew it existed by word of mouth but neither I or google could find it. :)

    One question is they keep stating 393.47 which none of that info is in there nor does it reference CVSA.


    Now if it's a violation don't you think it ought to be written into the FMSCA regs in black and white? If I'm overlooking it please highlight it for me.



     
  6. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    The biggest reason for the change in securement equipment was to get away from the rachect end of the strap rubbing on the rail of the trailer, the chain eliminates that and they will never wear out for what we use them for.
     
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    I'm sure it really makes no difference, but what he actually wrote the truck up for was 393.47a which states that, "the unit has inadequate brakes for stopping" I was not written up for a defective part.

    I guess to me this means the insp. made an assumption that my rig could not stop within a specified distance, considering what we weigh, and the fact that trailer has air disc brakes on it, I would put my stopping distance up against any other rig that he pulled in that day.

    JMHO
     
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    Violations found during a North American Standard Inspection are documented according to criteria developed by the FMCSA in conjunction with the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA). (ref 350.105)

    The regulations make general sweeping rules about all lugs being tight, all brakes being in adjustment, all lamps operable, etc. It is the CVSA out of service criteria which delineates how bad a violation must be before a vehicle is placed out of service for it.

    393.47 makes statements about how brake component physical characteristics must provide for safe and reliable stopping of the commercial motor vehicle. It is the CVSA criteria which spells out how bad a crack in brake linings must be before placing a vehicle out of service.
     
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    They talk about every other aspect of a brake lining. What's a few more words? The CVSA is pretty clear and concise. It wouldn't hurt anything to carry that data over so drivers could easily find it. That or start selling NASI or CVSA bibles drivers could carry around.

    But thanks for the heads up. I'll start using that website more and spreading the word. :)
     
  10. bender

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    Upgrading the brake lining material is a compromise. The upgraded lining contains more metal and won't perform as well as standard lining when cold. The upgraded lining is also noisy on brake application and wears your drums much faster than standard lining. Standard lining is always readily available for a repair, the optional lining may need to be ordered to complete a repair. Standard and upgraded linings won't work well if mixed especially on the same axle.
     
  11. snowwy

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    i must be blind or something. cuz that don't look like a crack to me. it simply looks like the brakes were molded that way. i bet another pair of shoes from the same manufacture would probably look the same way.

    just stating the way uit looks to me. so don't shoot me please.

    i once bought a computer board from a certain store. the board didn't work and they wouldn't exchange it because it had a crack in the processor socket. i went to another store. bought the same board. and it had the same crack. before i even purchased it. that store was nice enough to send my board back and didn't charge me for there board.

    needless to say. that other store FINALLY closed there doors. i don't know how they stay opened for so long. i could never purchase any parts that actually worked.
     
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