Legalized Weed Issues ....

That was directed to you, that's why I responded with with your post.
It's also out of respect, were all professionals here. (my belief anyway)
So it's from my own experience, that I can set my opinion into these threads, and hope someone will benefit from reading them.
Not here for "tit for tat" or a war on words, I'm sure your living your life to the fullest.
Let's see where you'll be when you get to my age in this life...!
As for the choice of chemo or prescription MJ from a Dr. is understood.
If your able to partake in "social pot smoking" under a Dr.'s care, or in a legal pot smoking state so be it.
I will state for the record young man, you won't be driving a commercial truck, without a valid DOT health card that say's you were drug free on the date that card was issued to you.
There will be no excuse for a pass if you test positive from a random drug test or post accident drug test.
Have you ever had to take a post accident drug test ?
Are you familiar with the guide lines for which that drug test is given by the state the accident took place in, and what's required by your carrier you drive for ?
(the accident wasn't my fault still had to take the drug test 2 of them)
That's the standard for driving a commercial truck, that attempts keep EVERYONE SAFE that's out there, and there's no reason for a change from that. (my opinion, with facts to support it)

 

We've all seen the media coverage of the FedEx crash in California.
I've made a comment on another thread, and will pose the question here which revolves with traces of smoking pot in your system.
If there able to perform autopsies on both drivers what do you think the out come will be for either driver if test results are positive ?
If the FedEx driver went to a party last weekend and was in contact with MJ and didn't smoke any, then tested positive from the accident 1 week later was his judgement impaired for which he wasn't paying attention while driving ?
Was the driver attempting to text while driving, a bad choice to attempt such a task of taking your eyes off the road to look at a cell phone while operating a set of doubles ?
Could the traces of pot still in his system, have contributed to the wrong choice to multitask while driving a commercial vehicle ?
All questions to be put on the table of the on going investigation, and the NTSB will subpena cell phone records of both drivers.
Nothing can bring back the lost to those families who's children perished on that bus.
What do you say to them for how they now feel about truck drivers ?
If you don't care, or this accident doesn't mean anything to you, that's your call.
It should be clear why regulations are necessary, that attempt to protect everyone.
Alcohol and drugs have no place in our industry, and it's because of situations like this that brings more regulation to prevent accidents for not remaining focused while driving a commercial truck.

 

We've all been watching the news with the FedEx crash in California.
So what do you think the toxicology test results could be on the FedEx driver ?
Early reports "no attempted braking before the crash".
Could his operating skills been impaired from being at a party 2 weeks ago, and he got a "contact high" from being there ?
If test results come back positive that will be used as the fault with this accident.

 

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Exactly. Trucking is an industry regulated by Federal Law. Cannabis is still illegall on the federal level.

I am for full legalization, but I concur with my father that that won't happen until Law Enforcement has the technology to test for those you are under the influence with active thc in the system, not the residual metabolite that they currently test for.

 

Don't you think testing technology will catch up quickly? I think it will, with the attitude and acceptance changing so quickly, I think it will have to. The police need adequate tools to deal with the ongoing legalization.

 

Okay Scott, then what proof can you produce after you've tested positive, for the nature of this accident that will remove your liability from this wreck ?

 

First off, your premise is wrong for the scenario. No one is going to test positive a week after being in proximity to someone else's marijuana consumption.

But lets pretend someone COULD test positive in such a scenario, The driver is dead. I doubt they will be testing urine. I'm guessing it will be a blood test. If they are actually testing for the psychoactive compound THC, it clears the system in 12-24 hours. Not a week.

Third, completely playing along with your scenario, that I am that driver... I apparently lived because you ask what proof Ican produce.

So being alive, I'm guessing they want a urine sample, and are testing for the metabolite THC-COOH like usual. Assuming some how I DID test positive, I would then request, and also obtain on my own, a blood test to test for THC level. THC level is the only indicator of Impairment. The THC cleared my system 6 days ago! -- So there you go.

The standard urine test we all take is used to detect a metabolite that has NOTHING to do with impairment.

But of course, regardless of the zero THC level in my blood (proof I wasn't impaired), they would still hang me out to dry just because I have a non-impairing metabolite in my urine. And that my friend, is why the current system of testing is so flawed.



http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/drugtestguide/drugtestdetection.html

 

There's quite a few assumptions you've made,....How about the federal guide lines for a post accident drug test. Are you aware of what the state's criteria for this type of drug test with their investigation of the accident ?
How about what drug test your carrier will give you, let's remember this was a scenario, or the FedEx fatality, or when the vehicle's have to be towed from the accident requires a drug test.
I'm sure your aware this is not "the drug test" of your choice ?
The states have their guidelines from the Fed's, and everything is reported back to Washington, I'm sure you know this also ?
A urine test may not be acceptable, blood test, how about if they cut a little of your hair and test that ?
You can rest a sure, the autopsy for both those drivers will cover more then a urine sample.
I'm not going to trust some web site's chart that say's,
"the average person's body will dissipate illicit drugs as indicated from a chart".
Everyone's chemistry, body mass is different sir, it's not worth it for me to throw my career away, and risk personal liability from a good time that's still in my system when I return to work.
DOT states nothing in your system while on duty, and that's what it is, legal pot, booze, or otherwise, that's the standard, and it's a good one for everyone out there.

 

You asked if the drivers judgement would be impaired a week after attending a party were he was in contact with marijuana.

I said No. Now think about that... IMPAIRED a week after just being at a party were someone else smoked pot? That is laughable.

Then you asked how I would prove I wasn't impaired a WEEK after attending that party, yet didn't consume marijuana myself. I said a blood test. Are you seriously arguing that I would fail a blood test a week after someone else smoked pot?

Then you poo poo a chart from an organization that deals with these issues on a daily basis, yet offer up nothing but assumptions yourself.