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Old 03.29.2007
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Blew Over My 14 Hours Pretty Bad. Now What?

Well, so, cr*p.

So I passed by the scales with my pre-pass at 2am (which presumably registered my truck's id), ran a full 16 hours before returning through it at 6PM the next night.

Here's my options, as I see it:

1) Be honest and log the full 16 hours. Consequences?

2) Log a ten hour break, and pretend I didn't drive as far as I did. Trouble is, my bills of lading are going to show that I went alot farther out.

3) It was the day before a 4-day break, so I could just include it in those days as "off duty," and just pretend ignorance ("I don't recall") if it's discovered.

I wish I'd just stopped, but I was SOOOOO close to home, and so pooped, and I'd had a bad day and just wanted to be home and ... wah.

What now?
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How I would handle it, and how you should handle may not match.

How do you think your company will react if you call in and say "I messed up"? In the end, you have a 4 day break, so regardless, after all of that you are clear to drive a full 70, so it's not like you have to shut down now or anything to clear you book up.

I just don't know how your company looks at logs and analyzes them compared to pre-pass and BOL's.
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Well, so, cr*p.

So I passed by the scales with my pre-pass at 2am (which presumably registered my truck's id), ran a full 16 hours before returning through it at 6PM the next night.

Here's my options, as I see it:

1) Be honest and log the full 16 hours. Consequences?

2) Log a ten hour break, and pretend I didn't drive as far as I did. Trouble is, my bills of lading are going to show that I went alot farther out.

3) It was the day before a 4-day break, so I could just include it in those days as "off duty," and just pretend ignorance ("I don't recall") if it's discovered.

I wish I'd just stopped, but I was SOOOOO close to home, and so pooped, and I'd had a bad day and just wanted to be home and ... wah.

What now?
Me being the log auditor I can't of course tell you to cover it up right
So with that said:

Log it as you did it and write down why you did it. To get home so and so was sick or had to be at a kids function whatever. Hope you do not get pulled over in the next 7-8 days and for your company most allow you to mess up # least 1 time a month. Most companies are this. I can't say for sure on your company though. No need to call logs, just show it on your log sheet. Or do whatever several other bad drivers might tell you the other option. I wouldn't do it
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Thanks, both.

Other opinions?
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I think I'm just going to log it as it happened.

The fact was that I was two mountain ranges (Vail Pass and Loveland) away from flatlands, and they were calling for a foot of snow on both by midnight. I'm not going to note that; I'm a newbie ( a month out from CDL), so I'll just play dumb, I guess. But if I had stayed where I was and taken 10, I would have been driving over both those passes in the middle of the night, and between that and driving a little tired, I chose the lesser of two evils, IMO (of course, MO is irrelevant when it comes up against DOT regs ).
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I think I'm just going to log it as it happened.

The fact was that I was two mountain ranges (Vail Pass and Loveland) away from flatlands, and they were calling for a foot of snow on both by midnight. I'm not going to note that; I'm a newbie ( a month out from CDL), so I'll just play dumb, I guess. But if I had stayed where I was and taken 10, I would have been driving over both those passes in the middle of the night, and between that and driving a little tired, I chose the lesser of two evils, IMO (of course, MO is irrelevant when it comes up against DOT regs ).
Good deal on logging it the way it happened. At one time there was a 2 hr
exception for weather etc. I once logged 16 hours on the logbook for a shift,Safety questioned me about it, which I stated the truth. It went on file as a legal log entry...Run legal,log legal,make more money.
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Thank, JR, and all the rest.

I'll do it.
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that is a 1 hour extension for bad weather which allows you to drive 12 hours but I don't think it extends your 14. There is also a 16 hour exemption you can use but you have to fit the fallowing rules.
1. you have to have started at your home location and finished there (no sleeping on the road)

2. you can only use it once in a week.

I feel like there is another one. Logs do you know it?

either way if you didn't sleep on the road I'd use it. Log it like you did it and write "16hour exepmtion" on the log. I use this once a week when I do my local run. Most people don't knwo about it though and I have had to explain it to a dot oficer once. Our safety guy gave us a copy of the statute to carry with us to show them just in case.

WHat you should have done is taken that pre pass and sat on it. Then it wouldn't register.

You could also log it legal an hope nobody catches it. but its your rear if they do
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1. you have to have started at your home location and finished there (no sleeping on the road)

2. you can only use it once in a week.
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There is the "FAQ" on the 16 hour exemption
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According to the FMCSA website , section 395.1(0) has been removed from the new regs effective October 1, 2005. The FAQ that is referenced above is dated August 2005.

So it looks like there is not a section 395.1(0) (16 hour exemption) currently in effect
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