EOBRs (Qualcomms) required in ALL Trucks by Jan 1st 2014?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by CryloZeus, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    No. No they don't. Left that crap 2 jobs ago, and will only e-log on my own terms with a system that I have 100% control over.

    Speaking of which, anyone have a dead Qualcomm or Peoplenet laying around? I want a nonfunctional one to dismember, possibly salvage parts from, and repurpose into a display for my own system :)
     
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  3. kwray

    kwray Medium Load Member

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    Oh please.....how difficult is it to add all your numbers together on a separate piece of paper to make sure everything totals right? I'm a city driver and I run a paper log because I typically exceed 12 hours a day. My driving time is typically half an hour at a time, with on duty not driving time in between. So by the time I'm done a log sheet looks like "hillbilly teeth". I will make a change of duty status at least a dozen times a day. As long as you keep up with it, its not very time consuming at all. Your frustrations with paper logs are overblown.
     
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  4. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    Well i was going to tag all the post I wanted to comment to but thats to many tags....so first qualcomm is overload. they admit it Dot admitts the the qualcomm elog had problems droping your log times they all know it. the qualcomm sends out data packs every 20 seconds. in that pack it contains your log info and truck info like speed fuel braking info. not take that times 500,000 at a time. the systems in place cant hold it much less more. want to see what i am talking about. got out spokane washington during the evening and try and my a phone call on your cell. you drop calls left and right because all the cell qualcomms trying to call out the data packs. elog in itself sucks sure if i pull into a truckstop to get fuel and get stuck for an hour i dont have to log it on duty, yea you can switch to off duty and save your 70. but your burning your 14. on paper i show my 15 minutes fuel and rolling again. I plan my day and i plan out stops. I hit my stops. sure techincaly to get to the end point that can be legal logged in 11 hrs it took me 12 because i hold up and delays. think i am going to kill my pay check because some jb hunt driver is pulled up i got my fuel and got a truck behind me and cant get out and he is inside spending all his money on bs crap and wont get a parking spot. no i am not. i will hit my marks and i will admit i have made the west coast turn arounds. whats making tired trucks is the HOS. give me back the 5 and 5 option. and leave my paper alone
     
  5. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    I am a grown man that graduated high school and moved out of my parents home long time ago so I don't need someone babysitting me. I am over 18 years old and served this country in war so why should the government babysit my ###? I deserve my freedom to use the math skills that I learned in school.
     
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  6. Richter

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    I agree that HOS is flawed. I hate that the 14 hour rule prevents me from taking a nap when driving because my 14 keeps ticking. It makes me drive tired because taking a nap would use up valuable clock. In any case, Hos is the law. The law may have been based on theory, but it still got passed and is a law. Weather or not it should be a law is a different story. If you feel strongly against HOS, then fight to change HOS, not the device that enforces HOS.

    If you feel a law should be changed, you vote to change it, you don't punch the cop that arrest you for violating it. Why is everyone putting the blame on the EOBR (the Cop). They should be putting effort to changing HOS (the law). In the mean time, either fight to change HOS or quit complaining about EOBR's. I'm not crazy about HOS, but it does keep the companies from trying to work us to death and I can make good money following the rules. I dont hate it enough to fight against HOS, but for those of you that do, fight HOS not EOBR.
     
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  7. Richter

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    Not if your sloppy and keep mistakenly writing :15 instead of .25 lol....it would be easy enough if I was neat.
     
  8. Richter

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    That does not change with EOBRs. As I said before, they have been telling you "how hard, how fast, I can run" since HOS started. Now there just enforcing it better.
     
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  9. PackRatTDI

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    What kills worse than anything is the 14 hr clock. In the old days, if you started at 5 am, drove a half hour to a pickup and they took 7 hours to load you. Oh well. You got a nice 7 hr nap.and then could drive the rest of your 9 and a half hours. As long as you didnt have 15 hrs total of on duty time, you were ok. Plus you could split log. Today thanks to the 14 hr clock, you can only run another 6 and a half hours before having to stop at 7pm. As for split logging, it only helps if they keep you for 2 hours or 8 hours. Anything in between merely eats away at your 14.
     
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  10. windsmith

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    The rules are broken. The rules as they stand now force drivers to drive when they're tired instead of allowing them to adjust their own schedules so they can drive when they're alert, rest when they need to, and not sit around wide awake waiting for their 10 to be finished so they can drive 5 more hours before they're tired again. Then they nap for a few hours, and now they can't drive out their remaining 11 because the 14 will expire. So, they push through instead of getting that nap that they need.
     
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  11. mitchtazz

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    the system i was refering to was the SatComm/Cell communication from truck to satellite/cell tower to mainframe. That's not overloaded or congested. Now the mainframe holding/storing all of the information may very well be overloaded/congested if the owners are too cheap to upgrade/expand their equipment to hand the load, but that's not a communication issues.

    [/QUOTE]want to see what i am talking about. got out spokane washington during the evening and try and my a phone call on your cell. you drop calls left and right because all the cell qualcomms trying to call out the data packs.[/QUOTE]

    i don't go that far west or north so i can't really comment other then to say that network congestion doesn't drop calls, it prevents them all together, a drop'd call is from an all together garbage arse network to begin with. Nextel back in 2004 was a big hitter with their push to talk, but their cell network was such a "POS", you could have all five bars and still drop a call, then they merged with Sprint and bam! they're now a contender.

    and for the user that said it's just enforcing a law and we should fight the machine, but fight the law instead. there would be no reason to fight the law if there were no machine. could you imagine if there was a machine that reported you for having sex in any position other then missionary, or for beating your wife anywhere, on any day except for on Sunday on the town hall steps? there are plenty of laws that people aren't fighting that shouldn't exists, mainly because there's no machine reporting us.
     
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