Link to log book examples on new hours of service! Goes into effect 7/1/2013

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    Of course, that's why I qualified my example by saying I usually have 10 hrs left on my 70 when I break. I could start any time I wanted before 0500 on Sunday with 10 hrs available and 10 hrs coming back at midnight every day until I get home again on friday. I wouldn't even need a restart with the two consecutive periods of 0100 fo 0500 required for a restart under the new rules.
     
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  3. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    FMCSA 395.3 (d) ends by saying " When a driver takes more than one off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours within a period of 168 consecutive hours, he or she must indicate in the Remarks section of the record of duty status which such off-duty period is being used to restart the calculation of 60 hours in 7 consecutive days or 70 hours in 8 consecutive days."

    I would assume that if we are required to mark which period we use as a restart, then the EOBR's should allow us to select as well. (it should make us choose really)

    You guys were all correct btw. I double checked my question, and for the guys who get home every weekend but sometimes leave on Sunday and some times on Monday, what will happen is when they leave out on Sunday they will likely just have to work off their recap that week and wait til the following weekend to get another 34 hr restart.
     
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  4. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My guess is that the elogs will be programmed to maximize the driving hours available when multiple 34 hours off occur. They are after all computers and multiple calculations are easy for them. I doubt they will ask a driver to choose whether or not to use a reset but simply use rollover hours if they provide more hours to run at that given moment in time.
     
  5. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Danny: I thought I had read that but wasn't sure exactly where so I didn't want to say "I know" you can attitude.
    That's whyI kind of left it open to I belive you can. I haven't checked with qualcomm to make sure they have it in place to allow a driver to select it.
    Just like today, it automatically gives you a restart, even though you may not need it. I believe and never checked this could hurt a driver any maybe I am wrong. I never got a chance to figure it out, well to lazy I guess and put it on the back of the burner :( Now to late to even worry about it.
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    The driver must "select" so the qualcomm will probably have to offer some type of option for the driver to select, I could be wrong. My thought is, The computer can't determine the drivers load information based on hours available, therefore the 70 hours/34 hr restart will still have to be up to the driver to determine.
    In some cases, I may have 10 hours (or more)available, I might want to run those 10 hours, not take a restart.
    Great discussion everyone :). Happy I did post it ). I don't tknow but I will email qualcomm to find out!
     
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  7. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    I listened to an hour long program last week when Dave Nemo (Road Dog Radio) had with two guys from FMCSA discussing these new rules in detail.

    The biggest confusion about the 34 hr rule is drivers think they have to take a mandatory 34 hr break under the new provisions. As I already said, you don't have to.
     
  8. shepard74

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    if your on e logs you could select to not take a 34 restart with the edit button by droping yourself down to line 4 for 15 min somewhere in the middle of the 34hrs.
     
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  9. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I did notice on my Qualcom (after it updated the software last week) a new line on my status screen that reads "date of last 34 hour reset". It automatically does the 8-2 split for you. I don't see why it won't do this as well. There will only be one method that maxs out your hours. The machine will choose that.

    You select it when you approve the logs after the fact.
     
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  10. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    well, I started out before there was such a thing as a 34 restart, so we had to total 7 days all the time. But some newer drivers have never had to figure out which hours "drop off" and get added back to your 70 clock every day, a lot of companies are content to teach them to take a 34, start in the morning and try to get done before your 14 runs out. I think it's going to take a lot of re-education to implement these rules. Probably a good line of work to get into right now for someone who likes to teach and has the appropriate knowledge and skills to do so. Dispatchers and load planners need to be learning this stuff as well as the drivers.
     
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  11. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    True but why would you want to waste hours against your 70
     
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