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Trucking Industry Regulations Wipin' The Fog Off The Log. Forum/Discussion of trucking regulations, hours of service, log books, rules, laws, etc.

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I want the drivers to answer these questions, I don't want to answer them.

I want to know how current are they keeping their logs!

Do I need to change this??

uh yeah.....everybody was waiting for your reply.........
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You figured correctly.

Some diesel cops will allow little catch up work if you're within four hours, or so, of current. This make sense because if you logged on duty for the first time at 07:00, and it's now 14:00 on the same day, there is no mathematical way you could have used the fourteen. Putting a driver out of service because he's a couple of hours behind, at this point is just stupid.

Some want to see the book immediately, like while you're sitting on the weighing platform. No catch up allowed. If it ain't perfect, you're getting a ticket. That's when you realize, it ain't about safety, it's about revenue.

I went through a roadside inspection a few months ago. The diesel cop didn't even ask to see the logbook. I didn't ask, but he volunteered that in his opinion, the logbook was joke, and full of lies. He said it took too much effort to catch a driver cheating during a roadside, and that the auditors could do more damage during an in-house audit.


They used to give you 15 minutes to get it up to date, but it is suppose to be current up to your last duty status. The fifteen minutes was to flag the stop and get your papers in order.
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You figured correctly.

Some diesel cops will allow little catch up work if you're within four hours, or so, of current. This make sense because if you logged on duty for the first time at 07:00, and it's now 14:00 on the same day, there is no mathematical way you could have used the fourteen. Putting a driver out of service because he's a couple of hours behind, at this point is just stupid.

Some want to see the book immediately, like while you're sitting on the weighing platform. No catch up allowed. If it ain't perfect, you're getting a ticket. That's when you realize, it ain't about safety, it's about revenue.

I went through a roadside inspection a few months ago. The diesel cop didn't even ask to see the logbook. I didn't ask, but he volunteered that in his opinion, the logbook was joke, and full of lies. He said it took too much effort to catch a driver cheating during a roadside, and that the auditors could do more damage during an in-house audit.
Now I like that cop . He said log department is better than him. He is right though, it's because we have all the documents to match against your logs. What he is though is lazy. I would not count on that happening to much.

Your logs should be current to your last duty status change.

Example If you take off driving # 3:00 am the time you took off should be drawn down/up to line 3 with the city & state in the remark section. If you stop anywhere you should have a notation in the remark section # what time you stopped.
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uh yeah.....everybody was waiting for your reply.........
But I have ? marks behind my Questions ?'s. That means it is a question.
I am curious here on how you guys are doing your logs
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But I have ? marks behind my Questions ?'s. That means it is a question.
I am curious here on how you guys are doing your logs

That is because it is a need to know answer and you don't need to know!
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But I have ? marks behind my Questions ?'s. That means it is a question.
I am curious here on how you guys are doing your logs
and questions deserve an answer, right ? seemed to me you were asking and was gonna give the correct answer.

my logs ? lets not go there..............
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That is because it is a need to know answer and you don't need to know!
You are right, I probably don't need to know the answer. I already know the answer some don't keep them up to date at all.

But I want to hear them and discuss it because it is your first step in getting by with no fines during an audit on the road. Many drivers I am finding are not doing this. I have more keeping their logs current like they should than not, but if I can reach one driver on this discussion it would be great for him/her.
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and questions deserve an answer, right ? seemed to me you were asking and was gonna give the correct answer.

my logs ? lets not go there..............

No Cerberus tell us the truth. Then I want to convince you, hmmm tough job I know, but eventually I hope to rub off on you
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No Cerberus tell us the truth. Then I want to convince you, hmmm tough job I know, but eventually I hope to rub off on you
i can't comment here...my mind is in the gutter on that comment...........
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i can't comment here...my mind is in the gutter on that comment...........
LMAO! I had a feeling you would take it to the gutter
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