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    100 mile radius question

    I have a quick question. normally I run local under 100 mile radius and under 60 hours a week.... this past week in 5 days I have 57 hours and my boss made me work 9 hours Saturday and told me to use a log book to log Saturday. im wondering if I use a log book for Saturday work do I have to fill out a log book for the next few days or can I just use a log book for a single day and go back to a daily log sheet?


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    when i worked local. we only logged days over 12 hours. which very rarely happened. never worked over 60 hours.

    that was dirt hauling. back in them days. the air radius was 150 miles. least, that's what the one and only scale check i had said.

    don't know your operation though.

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    I would ask him why he told you to do that. Because normally in a 100 air mile radius Dot does not require you to keep logs. When you haul Agg. Worst case scenario if his explanation does not make sense call a scale house in your area and ask them how to be compliant and record the date time and officer you spoke to

    You dont have to give them your name or your company just ask them the question upfront and if they want personal info hang up. I don't support outlaw trucking but anyone in a seat understands the inflexibility of the industry as a whole. The good news is no matter what your doing, all of this on Paper. That being said you can always color inside the lines of your coloring book! Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bo duke View Post
    I have a quick question. normally I run local under 100 mile radius and under 60 hours a week.... this past week in 5 days I have 57 hours and my boss made me work 9 hours Saturday and told me to use a log book to log Saturday. im wondering if I use a log book for Saturday work do I have to fill out a log book for the next few days or can I just use a log book for a single day and go back to a daily log sheet?
    NO.......go back to your daily log sheet.

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    Sure you can use a log sheet for a single day but you have to record your previous 7 days.

    395.8 (2) Motor carriers, when using a driver for the first time or intermittently, shall obtain from the driver a signed statement giving the total time on duty during the immediately preceding 7 days and the time at which the driver was last relieved from duty prior to beginning work for the motor carriers.
    But you can't bounce around the 60/70 when you feel like it if you don't operate 7 days a week. You busted your 60. The logbook doesn't fix that. You would of had to work up to 4 hours Sunday for that little trick to work.

    If he runs 7 days a week then forget this part.

    395.3 (b) No motor carrier shall permit or require a driver of a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle to drive, nor shall any driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, regardless of the number of motor carriers using the driver's services, for any period after—

    (1) Having been on duty 60 hours in any period of 7 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier does not operate commercial motor vehicles every day of the week; or

    (2) Having been on duty 70 hours in any period of 8 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier operates commercial motor vehicles every day of the week.
    Tell him you'll fill out 4 hours on duty not driving for Sunday if he pays you for it. Then you'll both be legal other than the falsifying.
    Last edited by CondoCruiser; 10.30.2013 at 12.23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bo duke View Post
    I have a quick question. normally I run local under 100 mile radius and under 60 hours a week.... this past week in 5 days I have 57 hours and my boss made me work 9 hours Saturday and told me to use a log book to log Saturday. im wondering if I use a log book for Saturday work do I have to fill out a log book for the next few days or can I just use a log book for a single day and go back to a daily log sheet?
    395.1 interpretations Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

    Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption.
    Any day you stay within 100 miles and get off-duty within 12 hours, no log book is required for that day.

    However, you are still subject to the HOS limitations, 11, 14 and 60/70 rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalemaster View Post
    Any day you stay within 100 miles and get off-duty within 12 hours, no log book is required for that day.

    However, you are still subject to the HOS limitations, 11, 14 and 60/70 rules.
    In his example he was going over the 60 hour limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadmedic View Post
    In his example he was going over the 60 hour limit.
    395.3 interpretations Question 1: May a motor carrier switch from a 60-hour/7-day limit to a 70-hour/8-day limit or vice versa?
    Guidance: Yes. The only restriction regarding the use of the 70-hour/8-day rule is that the motor carrier must have Commercial Motor Vehicle CMVs operating every day of the week.
    If his company operates CMV's every day of the week, he is on the 70 hr rule. Can't tell from his post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalemaster View Post
    If his company operates CMV's every day of the week, he is on the 70 hr rule. Can't tell from his post.
    Seems most likely though.

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