New HOS

your safety director is right

in order to make the 34 hr rule work according to the dot. you need to be home or start your 34 by thurs night. Sadly if your company does not want to use the 34 hr rule ? they have the right to enforce it in their company. All they have to say ( should you complain to the dot ) is our dispatch system doesn't work properly within those rules.

sorry for the bad news

 

I don't know if you're correct in this matter or not ... being over 70 hours is over 70 hours regardless of whether you took a restart or not. Now, if you were operating under the assumption you were starting from 0 (restart), then quickly getting into trouble I can see that, but you mention your company does not allow restarts, so I'm a little confused as to what your situation may or may not be.

Or perhaps you're doing your restarts too soon after the previous where they can't be implemented and used (as per DOT 168 hour rule)?

I suppose a company can impose their own "log rules" as long as they are more restrictive then federal law, but it's seems like a real questionable matter if so, especiallt in regards to whether or not you can take a legal restart according to federal DOT rules

 

Without knowing when the OP starts his reset and without knowing when he starts his work week, you have no idea whether his company person is right or not.

For the OP, you can start your reset as late as 7 PM on Friday and be good to go at 5:01 AM on Sunday.

 

If you started your reset at 2359 Friday night you would have to wait until 0959 Sunday morning for your restart to be finished. If you needed to leave earlier then that then obviously you would have to start the restart earlier. All in all it's a moot point however since your company won't let you use it. Which is one of the most idiotic things I have ever hear a company do, since running on recap is a pita.

Edit: The ATA has absolutely no jurisdiction over the HOS at all. Your compliance person is either an utter moron or lying to you. The only thing that has changed about the restart provision is the 168 hour between restart rule, and the 2 periods of 1-5 AM rule.

 

I have never heard something so completely WRONG. IF I was you driver,,,I would stop driving for them right now and get this straight. I really don't believe, tell me if I am wrong here guys/gals, they can tell you whether or not you can use the 34. The over 70 thing is BS if you did not violate it, by taking the 34, just because they don't recognize it. Utter stupidity, just crazy.. I would never driver for company, knowingly, that thought the ATA was in charge...lmbo

 

Each way to remember the 34-hour reset rule: you MUST have 168 hours of time pass from the BEGINNING of the time you began the restart to the beginning of your new restart. Or easier yet....when the reset end...you can't do another reset till 134 hours pass. Just remember a reset must include two consecutive 1-5am periods to count.

 

lol in other words You better hope your delivery or pick-up is very close to home

 

I have one little app to maybe help you here. Download the Big Road app. Just use it for a week, as just to see what it says. I do not mean to use it as a replacement, or it is the best thing, just to see what it says. It is programed to not let you violate your HOS. It wold be interesting to see what it says you can do as far as available hours.