MAP-21 E-LOG Mandate (Electronic Log Mandate)

Mev, are you just kidding ? If you are, that's funny -if your not then you are just another victim of the media and rumors and the "if they say it's so, it must be true mentality".
Do you believe that every driver on paper logs is driving 20 hours a day for weeks on end --or that the bazillion drivers before you on paper logs were just law breaking animals LOL - cmon man.
I bet you run more tired than most people on paper logs -- that 14 hour clock is ticking !

 

open the shop by major highways and charge the premium of $20-$80 more per hour to the mega carriers that are screwing the independent one guy and give that guy the brake in price. But, i forgot that most of the owner operator don't know the diff. between 9/16 and 14mm, or 1/2 and 13mm, and so on, just a thought.

 

[QUOTE="Hang - Man";3809588]Mev, are you just kidding ? If you are, that's funny -if your not then you are just another victim of the media and rumors and the "if they say it's so, it must be true mentality".
Do you believe that every driver on paper logs is driving 20 hours a day for weeks on end --or that the bazillion drivers before you on paper logs were just law breaking animals LOL - cmon man.
I bet you run more tired than most people on paper logs -- that 14 hour clock is ticking ![/QUOTE]

I can tell you that running paper logs our company had scores in the high 90's. the more opportunity you give DOT to inspect you the more things they'll find wrong. So getting ahead of the game on eLogs was an important factor in reducing our scores as the DOT didn't want to look at an eLog. Less inspections lead to lower scores. Don't get me wrong we've put more emphasis on safety as well, but to say that making the switch to elogs wasn't a factor would be a lie.

 

I don't doubt what your saying for a minute.
I also would believe that high scores are possibly from small mistakes and over zealous DOT checks looking for any slight mistakes which really dont have anything to do with safety.
On top of that' just drivers that don't know the right way to fill out a log.
On that note-- i know that everyone will be on elogs eventually, my question would be what will they use for a revenue generator if they cant be up the drivers a-- about mistakes on paper.
Honestly, its just my op ion and i am not out there driving with you folks, but i can read and if the drivers dont have the option of a little nap or a few minutes extra to find a place to park for the night for fear of some buzzer going off it just doesn't sound safe to me --but what do i know.
I am for the driver having an edge first not the company or the lawmakers/ enforcers.

 

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Not like anyone who makes any laws is going to listen anyway. Am I the only one with a perverse desire to see the government F trucking up so bad that drivers walk away en masse, or perhaps put only new drivers in trucks because all the guys who have been safely driving for years know that they do not need an Elog to get the job done safely? I am not condoning the ones that go across the country in one shot, but there needs to be some leeway when it comes to many things that are beyond the driver's control - shippers/receivers/traffic/weather - the driver gets paid for the work he gets done. Period. Maybe if they paid them by the hour it might work. Good luck quoting a customer on a freight rate for that load. Maybe there will be a "driver took 10 extra hours - driver surcharge". How would an owner operator be paid? The system isn't setup to just make a switch to hourly pay. On top of that, it's been said that this is the SAFEST TIME EVER FOR TRUCKING IN AMERICA. So I guess that means it needs to be fixed.

 

An attitude like that did not build this fine country!!
You have to fight for what you believe is right or have EVERYTHING taken away.
The only thing this law is helping are the people sitting behind a desk, is does nothing for the men and women risking their lives everyday out on the road.
If you want less accidents on the highway, start with the four wheelers that are texting, eating, putting on make-up, watching movies etc.
The truckers are always at fault no matter what

 

All those who are saying something like " you need better time management" for running on e logs, you are lying mfks.You just dont have what else to say. I dont beliveve in safety, when billions of dollars are involved for elog companies. And oh, most of them require monthly payments. I dont believe in safety when it is definitely not about safety. Yes, i cheat, but please dont say :" ahaa f***ng outlaw, we got you" They call it cheating, they invented all the stupid rules. I call it safety. I never run tired...never! Traffic jams, weather delays....i go to sleep, than adjust. I am managing my own time.
I park in safe areas, i excercise, I ALWAYS RUN FRESH. I deliver on time, i work with all the responsability. E log makes it easy for lazy ### drivers, but not for hard working men. Megas have their people in congress and they want small companies out. It is only about money and power, never about safety. Dont believe in this bs. They need to hear us, but we must unite.

 

I get your poke... but not for "hard working men". Actually a man is someone who has learned how to make a good living and not work so hard. I rather like making a very good living, all the while being home every weekend, every holiday, and taking 2-4 weeks off a year, and even by the house a couple of times a week. And none of it is dedicated running! Sure, it is regional, but no dedicated. I have seen enough to the U.S. that I don't need to criss cross all over the U.S. anymore. Using an Elog has had no effect on that. Elog just made it so I didn't have to mess with paper. Again, the operative words are.. "Work smarter, not harder".

 

Cowpie, i am glad it works for you. It wont work for me and many fellow truckers. Government listens and tracks your phone, now the they want to track me at work, every single step i do. You are ok with that, i didnt signed up for it.
And i am sure, you are not telling us everything about your elog experience. You always say it is so good, like you work for them or you drive 2000 miles per week. I drive reefer coast to coast, believe me, that real world environment makes it DANGEROUS to use this stupid nanny. And i dont use paper , tons of dot legal apps that eliminate paper filling time waste. Its a win -win.

 

What's wrong with e-logs? The issue is with the HoS, not how they are enforced.

If the HoS were more flexible and accounted for delays at shippers/weather/etc and other unforeseen circumstances, drivers wouldn't be forced to break the law to get their runs done on time. Granted, now with the anti-coercion law in effect, the driver can now say "no" with little to no repercussions from their company.

Driving from Los Angeles to New York in one shot isn't safe for anyone (and running multiple logs to gain extra miles is just silly and more work than it's worth). But neither is having a driver sit "off-duty" at a shipper, wide-awake, then go on to run 10 hours straight because the law says they can.

There needs to be some change, and drivers need to be given more ability to say "I'm tired, I need to stop" or "I'm still good to drive another 150 miles".