log books hours of service question...

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by big_country, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. big_country

    big_country Bobtail Member

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    Im going to have to try to explain this...

    Im a class E driver for a furniture delivery ccompany, and i was told that i am not required to keep a log book. However when i worked for united van lines i did have to keep a log. Both companies i usually didnt go out of state or more than 150 miles. However with the furnituredelivery job i do leave state from time to time. The question however is due to the service hours. Recently i had a route that kept me out for an 18 hour shift with no off duty time. 7 am till 1 am. This being said i was back into work at 7 am again that morning for another 13 hour day with no off duty. Mind you i live 30 minutes from my warehouse so add drive time home and take that into account that i was severley exhausted on the second day. This is also the end of my week having worked 3 days prior. An 82 hour week all together. Is there any exemption to allow this or am i driving illegally without knowing it. I work in the state of missouri in case you are wondering
     
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  3. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    You may need to upgrade your license. You are driving a commercial truck rated for what weight?

    Obtaining a Class E License You must obtain a Class E license if you receive pay for driving a motor vehicle that transports 14 or fewer passengers, or if you transport items as part of your job. This rule applies to workers such as messengers, taxi drivers, chauffeurs, shuttle bus drivers, pizza delivery drivers, and day-care-center employees, to name a few.

    Also known as a for-hire license, a Class E license allows you to drive any vehicle with a 26,000 pounds or less gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) that does not require a hazardous materials placard.

    This was pulled from the Farm PDF for MO.

    Straight Trucks Only

    Straight trucks are single cab and body vehicles. Both sections of the truck share the same chassis.

    Farm drivers of straight trucks who drive only within 150 air miles of their farm are exempt from the federal motor carrier safety regulations (FMCSR) regarding general driver requirements and driver qualification files, including DOT medical certification. Drivers must obey applicable state laws regarding age and licensing.

    Combination Trucks Only

    Combination trucks consist of a truck tractor and a full or semi-trailer. The sections can be separated. Farm drivers of combination semi-trucks who drive only within 150 air miles of their farm are exempt from FMCSR driver qualification file requirements only. The driver must meet general requirements in regard to age, English proficiency, experience and must have had training sufficient to drive and secure cargo. They must also be medically qualified, examined and certified by a physician who performs a DOT physical. However, while drivers must carry a DOT medical card when operating, vehicle owners do not have to keep DOT physical documentation in the driver’s qualification file.

    Both Combination and Straight Trucks

    Farm drivers of trucks that operate within 150 air-miles of their farm, wholly within Missouri, and who are not hauling for-hire or placarded hazardous materials, are exempt from CDL and drug and alcohol testing requirements.
     
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  4. big_country

    big_country Bobtail Member

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    Trucks are under 26000. They are 26 foot box trucks. But that didnt answer my question
     
  5. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I do not know of any normal exemptions(ie farm/oilfield etc)that apply here--so i cannot see how that amount of hours--can be allowable
     
  6. Mark Kling

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    I just added to the post.

    Also, I just Google'd this. "Missouri class e are required to keep a log book for driving hours?" It will bring up the links for the PDF's.
     
  7. big_country

    big_country Bobtail Member

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    The reason for the post was because i had a minor incident where i got called in because i nearly ran someone off the road because i didnt see them. I was exhausted and didnt notice him in a blind spot and i know im gonna get reamed... im not looking for an excuse but merely looking for some ground to stand on if it gets ugly...
     
  8. Mark Kling

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    Simply explain your working hours and your physical state of being at the time due to the long hours.
     
  9. Inspector

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    If you are an interstate driver and do not exceed 150 air miles from your home base, you and your company must follow the following federal rule. If you exceed 150 air miles you must use a logbook. If you are exclusively an intrastate driver, you must follow the state of Missouri's rules for commercial vehicles.

    395.1(e)(2) Operators of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles not requiring a commercial driver's license. Except as provided in this paragraph, a driver is exempt from the requirements of § 395.3(a)(2) and § 395.8 and ineligible to use the provisions of § 395.1(e)(1), (g), and (o) if:
    (i) The driver operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle for which a commercial driver's license is not required under part 383 of this subchapter;
    (ii) The driver operates within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work, i.e., the normal work reporting location;
    (iii) The driver returns to the normal work reporting location at the end of each duty tour;
    (iv) The driver does not drive:
    (A) After the 14th hour after coming on duty on 5 days of any period of 7 consecutive days; and
    (B) After the 16th hour after coming on duty on 2 days of any period of 7 consecutive days;
    (v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
    (A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
    (B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
    (C) The time the driver is released from duty each day;
    (D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with § 395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
     
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