Time and 1/2 for truckers

Running two thousand regional miles is completely different then 3400 otr miles, personally I'd rather be driving then loading/ unloading all the time.

 

Exactly, on some weeks we may only have one load/unload in that 3400 miles, and truth be told for some of the old timers on here 3400 miles would have been a LIGHT week. A lot of it just depends on how much you like to drive, I never looked at driving OTR as work, I always enjoyed it and looked forward to what was around the next corner or over the hill.

Regional would bore me to tears. But again, to each their own.

 

So far I have read a lot of crap but have seen no benefit for the driver in the cpm system. If you want to pay your drivers to drive home nothing in the pay per hour prevents that!

In fact, you pay them a stipend to run home and you don't have to dispatch, allowing them to run home off duty and conserving their 70 for both yours and the driver's benefit

The only use of cpm is to short the driver.

 

We PAY our driver for EVERY #### mile that truck moves, loaded, empty, deadhead, or going to the house, saving their 70 hrs for what? I have already told you that when my guys go home it is for multiple days/week at a time, we run elogs, so there is no PC option. Even when they run home empty, we pay the miles.

Just in case you are not aware of it, I CAN'T just run my drivers home with my equipment under PC, because if the next load were to pick up near their home, it HAS to be logged, you can NOT run under PC and further or advance your position to your next pickup, whether that be tom. or next week.

So the ONLY way to do it is to have them park the T/T at my yard, drive THEIR vehicle home, on their dime, and then back to my terminal when they are ready to come back to work, go ahead, look it up!



The numbers I was presented with 20per on line 3 and 12per on line 4 have proven exactly what I stated, MY drivers would lose money in that situation. Again, it is simply math 1340.00 for 70 hrs, on cpm.

Or 20/12 at 70 hrs, 1272.00

I can't make it any easier, obviously, this may not be true at other companies, I wasn't speaking for what went on at other companies.



With my scenario HOW am I shorting my drivers? I have put in plain print EXACTLY what goes on here, real world numbers, my turn over rate has been nil for over ten years.

Go ahead and tell me what I am doing wrong.

 

Weather you run them PC or not is immaterial. It is just an advantage if you want to use it or not is not important to me.

The fact is the only advantage to the cpm is to the company not the driver. To the company it means free work;as admitted by you, you could pay your drivers just the same by the hour. The reason companies don't is because they want to exploit the free work and have drivers take the liability from outcomes. If I think you do or not is, once again, immaterial.

The fact is if you are the one-in-a-million employer that does not exploit your workers through the cpm system, you are hurt by that pay system. Your competitors exploit that system, and in doing so are able to underbid you with cheaper freight rates. As the honest employer you should be first in line to force your competitors to pay up and compete on a level field of play.

 

I,m fine with crappy employers makes it easier to cherrypick the drivers i want to hire

 

Minimum Wage we do have to get by Law - overtime no. Had a Wage and Hour case by a driver with my former employer because he kept the driver's whole last check to cover damages and recovery. Driver filed a case with Wage and Hour. DOL W & H told me (boss gave me the case to handle - I was in Safety at the time - you know because Safety handles everything to do with ANY regulation - at least to him it did. LOL) we could go ahead and pay the guy minimum wage at straight time for all the hours he worked that week - minus taxes and keep everything over that, but if we didn't give him that he'd come in and audit us and they can go back 7 years and make the company pay everyone they ever paid less than minimum wage to the shorted wage, plus a penalty, plus a fine and since we seemed to think we were allowed to do that odds were we been doing it to a lot of folks for quite some time. BUT, if we gave this guy and anyone else that came forward their money and promised to stop doing it moving forward - no audit.

I advised Boss to give him his money and stop taking drivers' whole last checks for stuff. He could take everything down to minimum wage but nothing more. If he owes you money after that you'll just have to take him to small claims court. He was mad (like it was somehow MY fault) but he discontinued the practice and gave that driver minimum wage for the week. "They sign an agreement stating I can take their entire last check if they owe me that much money". Um, well see about that: you can't enter into a binding agreement to violate the law. It is a null and void agreement because you cant agree to break the law and then hold one of the parties to an agreement that violates the law. It's a worthless paper. Yeah - he was mad alright and strangely - at ME, like I was the one that did it. The driver and his payroll clerk did it. I just had to tell him the "bad news". LOL. Sure glad I don't work there anymore.

Yeah, so anyone out there that ever had a trucking company take a good bit or most or all of your last check (I'm speaking of employees - company drivers) do some math and if you got hosed call your Regional Office (I think there's one for each State) for US Department of Hour and ask for Wage and Hour Division and go get your money back. Part of it anyway.

 

That's the problem is so many people don't know the laws and regulations and what applies to us as drivers.
It's kinda like don't ask don't tell- we don't ask because we don't know and the companies aren't gonna tell because it screws them on paying us fair wages and treating us fairly.

 

Only because you have not set the PC option in the Elog system. I have been on Elogs for over 2 years and have always had PC as an option, and I do use it occasionally. But at least you pay them for your not allowing a PC option. There are many carriers that do not have a PC option in the Elogs and do not compensate the driver for times when they have to move and PC could be used.

 

Cowpie, I probably stated it incorrectly, IF I have a driver parked for a 34/weekend and he wants to drop the trailer and use the truck to go to Disneyland or Branson or Daytona or any other place that is within a reasonable distance, it is not a problem, all he has to do is note it under remakes.

BUT, and here is the difference, he is ALWAYS returning to the place he dropped the trailer when his hours are back to continue the move.

The situation I was alluding to was a driver has a load to drop off in Indianapolis, when dropped he deadheads home, to Ft Wayne, In. getting paid hub miles, for a weekend off, his next load to p/u on Monday is out of Detroit, Mi.

He CAN go directly from his home to Detroit to p/u that load, because he has always been paid under dispatch, HOWEVER, if he was on PC and went home, he is continuing on toward his next p/u, advancing his position, it has been explained to me, during a Federal audit about 6 years ago, that was NOT permissible.

If that has changed, I have not been made aware of it.

Stan