CARB and older trucks

It will be done via the CAB Cards.....

 

Who sponsored that meeting...Ironman?....Donaldson?.....

 

Really?...Why does AL require a cert to haul coils in their jurisdiction?

That's not in the "Green Book"....

Why does OR require OD/OS banners to be 8' long instead of DOT approved 7' long banners in their jurisdiction?...
That's not in the "Green Book" either....

 

You have got to be kidding! The U.S. Congress is never going to make the US EPA go away. EVERYONE wants clean air. The US EPA and CARB have identified that Diesel particulate matter is the biggest contributor to asthma and thousands of premature deaths. Do you really think some elected official is gonna stand up and stay interstate commerce is more important than that? If you boycott California trust me the mega carriers will take your place. Problem is the US government knows it. Sad as that may be

 

IIRC...The EPA rules were based on CARB's....

 

It was An ARB board meeting

 

Gotcha.....

 

But only on new production vehicle standards. The EPA does not force states to emission test vehicles like CA does. The EPA has no restrictions on grandfathering in older vehicles when new emission standards on new vehicles are implemented. And unlike CARB, the EPA also has standards on what is the engine useful life for emissions compliance. After than threshold is met, the engine no longer is required to meet the emission standards that it was produced for. And it is not a unrealistic standard either. For instance, the earliest EGR diesels are now getting into the category where they no longer are required to meet the EPA standards for which they were built. Those engines could be rebuilt, with no emission compliance, and be fully legit to operate. Just CA would have a restriction in that case.

 

I said this before, these are agreements between the states and are allowed to happen because of them, not a dictation from one state to others like CARB.

I know they won't kill it but it can happen in the future that it gets rolled into some other department. The point is that the EPA is a chartered entity which derives its powers directly from congress, not the executive branch so they have the power to change it.

OK when you repeat the same old line about asthma and deaths, it seems that there is a list of talking points that has been created to counter any opposition for realistic controls on pollution. It also begs the question what has taken municipalities so long to get a grip on their transportation systems because the DPM isn't from trucks in these cities but rather buses that run daily in the cities. Also thikning about it, why wasn't there a spike in death and asthma related issues in the first part of the 20th century, when air quality was really poor (with particulate matter being really high from coal and wood burning heating systems, plus industries who used coal and wood in those areas)? Asthma seems to be on the increase now, not then and it could be diet and lifestyle than it could be from air pollution - just saying because we don't know.

The same goes for cancer rates, lung cancer is increasing every year but people are living in cleaner environments ... or are they?

Actually in that state, no but others yes. It isn't that this would be an important point to argue about (pollution prevention and stuff) but the idea that the elected officials power goes away if the state can dictate what other states have to do to enter the state - yes.

The mega carriers will eventually have the same issues and if they have customers who stop using them because they support CARB, then that is alright with me. The problem for me isn't the issue of CARB, it is the issue of my state being told what to do by California who has no right to do so. So for now not one of my trucks takes loads into California, the company they are leased to know why and I know that OOIDA will win because there is too much at stake for the feds.

Nope, according to the EPA (here in Ann Arbor), their standards are derived by agreement by several groups - no one regulation is based on a state regulation.

 

CARB regs are legal....Like it or not...Ever hear of the 10th Amendment?