In my 51 years in the transportation business, I say 20 years were spent in the bus business, even after I retire from a trucking company, I drove part-time for a tour bus company, so I know what I am talking about. Now, we all know that truck drivers operate under a 14 hour clock, which cannot be stopped. 3 or 4 hours at a dock goes right on the clock, the lunch that you ate, goes right on the clock. Go to work at 6 am and at 8pm, you are "dead".
A bus driver can go on duty at 3am, take a group of people sightseeing all day, take them out to dinner that night, take them to a show afterwards and then drive home and get off at 3am the next morning and NEVER BE IN VIOLATION. Remember, this bus driver has no bed to rest in while he is waiting say at the sights and when the group is at a show. If he walks away from the bus, he can legally log it off duty and STOP THE CLOCK,
I have made two phone calls to the Dave Nemo show trying to get a logical explanation. Even today, Dave had two FMCSA executives on his show and he promised me that he would pose this question to them. Never once did he mention this to them. Probably last time I will listen to him, but I will not be missed, I know that.
But all this doesn't make sense. We have a bed that we can rest in, a bus driver doesn't but yet the bus driver can "stop the clock".
Bus drivers hos vs trucker drivers hos
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Grouch, Jul 10, 2014.
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See §395.1(d)(2).
There are special rules for truck drivers in the oil/natural gas industry that allow the stopping of the 14 hour clock while waiting. There are many instances when the HOS regulations are also suspended in other cases as well, although usually for a limited time, such as in the event of a natural disaster or other type of emergency. To say that bus drivers have this advantage over all truck drivers is not accurate. -
I'm just guessing here, but it probably has something to do with the transporting of passengers. With a trucker, it's just the truck driver so who really cares about that lone loser?
On the other hand, imagine you are a group chartering a bus. You hang out at the casino and party all night, but when you go back to the bus the driver refuses to move the bus because of hos rules. Don't think that scenario will fly when it comes to the bus companies and the bus patrons.
So basically it is really easy to harass or coerce a lone driver. -
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Not only that, many in the oil and gas industry drive only in the immediate area and never really go anywhere. This is why the rule was probably put into place. Other circumstances where the 14 hr clock can be extended are extremely limited such as inclement weather but........There is never a circumstance where I would log more than a 14 hr day because trying to convince a DOT officer of why you were working beyond the 14 hr clock would be next to impossible. Laws are often laws of convenience......It is inconvenient for the passengers of the bus to have to wait for their driver to take a break...Unsafe? Possibly, but convenience always takes precedent over safety when federal regulators are involved.Studebaker Hawk Thanks this. -
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I thought buses carried 2 drivwrs???
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