Smartphone, tablet logging apps no longer require printing or manual signatures

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mark Kling, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    http://www.overdriveonline.com/digi...07-10-2014&utm_campaign=OVD&ust_id=d19a6e2f69

    Under the new guidance, if a driver can sign the logs electronically, they do not have to print logs each day and do not have to maintain printed and signed logs for the previous seven days.

    From an enforcement standpoint, drivers can display current and records of duty status for the previous seven days on their device’s screen. If an inspector asks for printed copies, drivers must be given the opportunity to print them during the inspection, FMCSA says.

    If electronic signatures cannot be used within the app, though, drivers must still print and sign their logs each day and have on them printed and signed records of duty status for the preceding seven days.
     
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  3. Studebaker Hawk

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    I read the comments at the bottom of the article. It seems confusion is still the word of the day. I would consider using one of the apps in question, but the enforcement community is full of poorly trained "experts" who will unilaterally declare you out of service for not having a logbook no matter how many references you provide, like a copy of the guidance or the overdrive article. They barely can get their head around the established systems like PeopleNet etc.
     
  4. jeffo51

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    Exactly driver! The real rules are what that officer you are dealing with that day says they are. They don't take kindly to arguing.
     
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  5. Scalemaster

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    The guidance says, "If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the timeof inspection."

    That means the driver must be able to print the previous seven and current days. Not faxed, not emailed, printed by the driver on his equipment.

    The printed copies must show ALL information required by 395.8, as opposed to AOBRs which only have to show some of it.

    Basically the printouts will show the graph grid with change of duty status locations and all the same information paper logs do.

     
  6. JahB

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    And, people need to know that theshe apps are NOT just like "standalone" paper logs, even when they are not EOBR, which some drivers might use "like they used paper logs in the old days". These apps are connected to the app vendor via your phone's mobile data and wireless connections, and to your GPS. Read the terms of service and privacy statements. The vendors have rights under the contract (even demo) that one should be aware of.
     
  7. xlman78

    xlman78 Bobtail Member

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    My interpretation is that if officer request logs on paper then driver should have be given opportunity to use he's own printer (if he has one) or use equipment located "in office" or provided by officer.
    No matter is it email, fax, regular printer with wireless connection, usb, bluetooth, printed page with logs gonna be looks exactly the same if they have been sent thru email or fax machine.
     
  8. snowwy

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    it's your resposibility to be able to print them. NOT dot's responsibility to make sure you have help printing your logs.
     
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  9. fargonaz

    fargonaz Road Train Member

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    And since none of you are going to be at my next driver inspection...
     
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  10. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    And you are wrong, scalemaster is exactly that, read his interpretation
     
  11. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Actual we have a couple of posters here that just might...
    And at least @Scalemaster has posted the regs and guidance it seems like 100's of times. You must be able to print. Not fax, not email, not carrier pigeon, but print when asked.

    -Steven
     
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