Logging time at a non-trucking company

Let me clarify: DOT has no jurisdiction on private property. So long as you ONLY operate on private property, you are ok not to log, not be licensed, or anything else like that. IF, however, you ALSO operate upon public roads, then you need to log. While the HOS do not apply on private property, any driving you do upon private property counts against the 11 hours you are limited to upon public roads. Same with your on-duty not-driving time. On private property, it doesn't matter...but they count against your 14 if you also operate on public roads.

For example, if you haul a load in from 5 hours away, you can turn around and work on-site for as long as you want shuttling stuff from one side of the property to the other for 10-15 more hours and it is perfectly legal. However, if you shuttle stuff from one side of the property for 10-15 hours at the beginning of your day, you cannot complete the 5 hour trip to deliver on the other end without taking 10 hours off. You aren't in violation of the HOS until you are driving on public roads after being on duty 14 or driving 11 since your last 10 hour break.

And as for the log books, if you work for multiple carriers, EACH carrier must receive within 13 days an original log page. That log page must have that carrier's information. If you work for multiple carriers, you must do this for each carrier. The graph indicating how you spent your time will be identical on all of your individual logs for the various carriers since it is a record of YOUR duty status. The only reason for variation from one graph to the next is if the carriers are if the carriers' home terminals are in different time zones since the log graph is supposed to be based on the carrier's time zone.

 

Just to clarify this, it isn't just driving but any work.

I have to watch myself when I work on the weekends doing non-driving stuff if I get called in to drive on a Sunday. If I don't have a clear ten hour reset that I can confirm if I get into an accident, then I can't drive. So if I do a 12 hour day on a saturday, I have to count when I get off as my off duty time to get my 14 back.

 

It doesn't matter whether you are driving or working on private property, you must log all time as on duty not driving if you are being paid to do it. You could be a bartender at the officers club, if you are being paid for it, it should be logged on duty not driving.
Since the helecopter folks don't need your logs, it would wind up on the log you turn in at the truck driving job. All of the same rules apply. You can work as much as you want, you just can't drive a truck on public highways until you get below the 11/14/70, which might require 10 hours off, maybe a 34 hr reset.

 

If you are going to drive fuel on the roadways, none of this should be a mystery. You've got some work to do. This should help:

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety/carrier-safety/motor-carriers-guide-improving-highway-safety

Download and read. Also buy a spiral bound copy of the regulations with guidance.

 

You have 13 days to get your logs to them, and they must retain them for 6 months.

 

No. They are not.