Operating Authority Revoked

The question is, for what reason was the # revoked? if it was for equipment violations and they transferred everything over to the other # without making any repairs, guess who's getting those tickets..........

 

I appreciate the response, but you changed the facts of my situation, and didn't answer my question. My father-in-law, as the owner had his operating authority revoked. Now he wants to lease to a carrier (in Texas) and operate under the carrier's operating authority and DOT number. He says he knows people who have done it but there's a difference between people doing it and it being legal.

 

He answered your question just fine. Your father had his authority revoked. He still owns his trucks. He'll lease on to someone with valid authority and they will be responsible for compliance. It's not that hard to grasp and is perfectly legal.

 

well the chicago white volvo crowd have a DOT # for every cousin

 

he answered your question.

it is totally legal.

it's not that hard to understand. anyone can buy their own truck. and gain their own authority. OR lease on to another carrier. or have their authority revoked and still lease on to another carrier.

there's no law that states one can NOT lease on to another authority. regardless of own authority status. that's why you can't find it in the books. THERES JUST NO LAW.

the law only states that a truck MUST have a number on it in order to roll down the highways. the law don't care WHO'S number.

 

Well.....

The name and USDOT number displayed on the vehicle should belong to the Operating Motor Carrier only. No other USDOT numbers are to be displayed.

 

That's the beautiful thing about living in a free country, with the liberty to make your own decisions. The government does not have to approve of an action in order for it to be legal. As long as it has not been specifically prohibited, it is legal to do. If the government cannot show good reason or justification within the powers granted by the Constitution for prohibiting the action, then even if they DO prohibit the action it is likely to be challenged.

Bottom line, the authority was revoked. They can lease the trucks on with another carrier as long as that carrier is OK with those trucks running the new numbers. If the reason for the revocation was office-related, then there really isn't much to it. If it is a safety-related revocation due to poor maintenance and crummy trucks, then when the bad inspections and oos orders start rolling in those new numbers will be at risk, too.

Bottom line, if you know WHY it was revoked, are you OK with working for them? If so, carry on. If not, go elsewhere. I once worked for an outfit that consolidated. Paperwork snafu caused the state to list their corporation as "not in good standing" and so they were not issued cab cards, IFTA, etc. for the trucks. Took 6 months to get straightened out and we kept right on working. Dodged the scales and tried not to attract too much attention on the road. As long as my paycheck was good, I kept driving their trucks. I enjoyed the work we were doing, and loved my job. We were only a small outfit...3 trucks, 2 drivers...so it wasn't as though we had every cop in the state looking for us. Would I do it again? I guess it depends upon who I'm driving for, what & where I'm hauling, and how much I'm being paid to do it.

 

I have been in a similar situation. I was leased to a company whose (primary) authority was revoked. We simply covered the old DOT numbers, added the numbers for the secondary authority, signed a trip lease and off we go...

Was it legal? Yes, the secondary authority was in full compliance. Do the authorities like it? Not so much, but there was no legal reason nor means (at that time) to prevent the company from continuing to operate under their secondary authority.

It certainly put the company under additional regulatory and enforcement scrutiny and I did leave them shortly thereafter. As a leased operator I wasn't terribly concerned as the reasons for the authority being revoked were all related to issues with company trucks and drivers. My inspections were all clean and the cheques were good so I wasn't going to bail until I had somewhere else to go. So, other than a minor irritation at getting inspected more frequently, it wasn't a problem for me.

 

call the FMCSA look on the net under www.safersys.org for information,,DO NOT RUN UNDER THEIR US DOT NUMBER IF THEY ARE REVOKED,

 

I grew up in Suburban Md, I had DC, VA and Md licenses. DC and VA were easy because all you needed was a PO box. Even registered my cars in DC because the only requirement to getting your tag was a check box regarding insurance. [x] Yes or [ ] No. No proof of insurance was required. Guess which box I checked. This was back in 1984,.. much different today. Even when they switched to CDL in 92, I was still running with 3 licenses up until 99 when I moved to Florida. They had my number after that LOL.

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