Log book question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Jackofalltrades1977, Sep 4, 2014.

  1. Jackofalltrades1977

    Jackofalltrades1977 Light Load Member

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    Good day! I am no long OTR and after going nuts in an office I finally found a local gig. It's partly driving, mostly taking x-rays. My question is this: It's a Class B straight truck just over 32k lbs used for intrastate only. We are in NC, maybe once per month we'll cross into SC to dump the tanks at a camp ground. Is logging required for this? It's Monday thru Friday, in and out daily and always right around the Charlotte metro area.

    Thanks for any help.
     
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  3. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Yes it is, but you maybe able to satisfy the requirements with a route sheet.
     
  4. Jackofalltrades1977

    Jackofalltrades1977 Light Load Member

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    Ok, I'll have to read up on that. Thank you.
     
  5. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I'm not THAT experienced with your situation but, I say as long as you dont go over 100 air miles away from you home base, you wont have to log. However, the problem is, your truck is only licensed for intrastate travel. You either need to get SC included on your cab card (plates/registration) or you may be able to satisfy that by getting a permit from SC to cross into the state each time you go. I say it'll be easier & cost less to get it added to your cab card/plates. You will also need to get an IFTA sticker or you will need to buy fuel in SC (to satisfy the road use tax stuff).

    Again, I am not THAT familiar with the situation but its my opinion.
     
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  6. Grouch

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    100 mile radius, no log is required unless you hit the 12th hour in a day. Once the 12th hour is "hit", a log is required for that day. Also you fall under the 60 hour rule in 7 days instead of the 70 hour rule for 8 days. Crossing a state line has no bearing on "logging" but it does affect IFTA .
     
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  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When you cross into S.C. to dump the tanks, can you do so without crossing a state scale ? Is the campground just over the line or 30 miles in VIA interstate ? Is the truck "ideed" ? Or is it a "plain jane", no markings.
     
  8. saddleup

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    It won't matter where the scales are once he cross's the state line he is illegal, because he only has intrastate authority. that means no out of state, all it takes is a fender bender to get busted
     
  9. FuzzFace2

    FuzzFace2 Medium Load Member

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    I thought besides the 100 air miles he needs to punch a time clock that his boss can show start/stop times for HOS if DOT asks for it?
    Dave ----
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    For the 100 air-mile radius, you must start & end your day at the same location within 12 hours. Your employer must maintain a record of the hours you work. That record can be a time card, trip sheet, log book, or even a scrap piece of paper so long as it has your name, the date, the time you started work, the time you ended your day, and the total number of hours worked that day. You do not need to carry any documentation of this in the truck with you, but if you become aware that you will not be able to complete your day within the scope of the exemption (i.e. you venture out past the 100 air-mile radius or work past the 12th hour), then you must complete a log book page for the day.

    The 60 in 7 vs. 70 in 8 has nothing to do with local vs. otr. If the motor carrier operates 7 days per week, you use 70 in 8 days. If they only work 5 or 6 days per week, then you use 60 in 7. Your company should let you know which HOS limit they choose to run under...most likely 70 in 8, because even companies that typically only work 5 or 6 days per week are going to leave the option open if it gets busy and the work will pay enough to justify the OT.
     
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  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    i don't know if that would be the case. that be like switching the hours depending on the time of year.

    construction gets busy in the summer. but they work 60 hours per week all year long. (example)
     
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