What's up with truck speeds regulated to 25 on I-90?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by camionneur, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. camionneur

    camionneur Road Train Member

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    Somewhere in there, going downhill, I'm being slowed down by the black & white signs to 25 mph, with cars coming around the corners behind me at full speed... wtf? Whatever happened to reasonable and prudent...
     
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  3. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    That's on Homestake Pass. That 25 mph speed limit is there for a good reason. There were a ton of really bad wrecks there, and to stop the accidents, they posted that truck speed limit. Kinda like California posting slower speeds on the Grapevine and a few others. Even PA has lower truck speed limits coming off mountains/hills on certain roads, such as 309.
     
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  4. ramblingman

    ramblingman Road Train Member

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    No it's not there for good reason. I go From Spokane to billings at least once a week on avg Crossing
    -4th of July
    -Lookout
    -Continental Divide (homestake pass)
    and Bozeman pass

    During all seasons.

    Even at 78k going over Homestake Pass last night i was able to go down in 8th gear maintaining 35-40mph and i had to toggle my Jake brake constantly to stop from going too slow.

    Now last winter i came down Homestake Pass as it was covered in ice and i slid down the east side 6 mile 6% grade more than i drove down and then i maintained a speed of 12-20mph and the 25mph speed limit was reasonable under those conditions.

    The states are making stupid low speed limits because flatlanders and newbies don't know what they're doing, but it's not fair to guys that know what they're doing.

    After all it's not that difficult.
    1.gear down to appropriate gear
    2.toggle jake brake to maintain speed
    3.pick your nose and enjoy the view on the long slow ride down.
     
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  5. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Don't you have just a year?
     
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  6. camionneur

    camionneur Road Train Member

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    Yeah, and it took us about that long to get down the pass...
    :biggrin_25522:

    Whatever, I drove through Canada (on narrower roads with similar hills and tighter turns), in the winter, with even less experience, and had no problems gearing down for recommended 20 kph (or so) corners from 90+ kph speed limits (while these look like 55 mph would be a good start)... this is a sick joke (slower than a construction zone, in the summer no less), I'm going past a runoff ramp at 25 mph, toying with the idea of pretending to lose control and take a lunch break there. They should at least slow down all traffic to within 10 mph to be safe—I'd rather not find out how much of an impact my underride protection can take, before decapitating a driver, being that people pass me from no farther away when going more than twice my speed, but of course, someone will have to die for them to find a happy medium between bad driving and worse regulation.
     
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  7. camionneur

    camionneur Road Train Member

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    Out of concern (or morbid curiosity), I looked up underride impact tests, and it seems to me (and probably them) that this difference between car and truck speed would be a recipe for disaster (being that the impact would be even greater here and neither vehicle is generally rated for that, if any are considered safe in this case).

     
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  8. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

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    Barking up the wrong tree...


    Speed limits in Texas are 80 in some places.
    Think even 85 on the 'New' Toll Road.
    And you don't see Cars rear ending Swift/CR England every day.


    Yeah I know this would be a bigger speed difference.
    But there's an assignment for you..
    When was the last time a Truck got rear ended on that stretch then.
     
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  9. camionneur

    camionneur Road Train Member

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    I almost did get rear ended there, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's only a matter of time...

    And the sad truth of the matter (besides how pathetic our doing 25 mph is there), is that it would probably take another celebrity's headshot on an obituary, literally (which is what brought underride protection into being), to change any of the laws to do with this situation, regarding both under-, and over-regulation, that or several deaths of mere mortals to be newsworthy.
     
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  10. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Hey Joseph...when I ONLY had a Year....back about 40 winters ago....I was WAY better than that! KNEW way more too.....lmao

    As a very wise old man once said to me..."You can go down a mtn too slow forever....but you can only go to fast once"
     
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  11. camionneur

    camionneur Road Train Member

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    Yeah, well someone can't necessarily go too fast behind me going too slowly, so I guess they'll have to kiss my axle, just saying (truck descents have changed in 40 years, or so I'm told, in newer trucks anyway, if all else fails use the brakes), and why is the speed limit not < 35 mph for commuter vehicles if everything pretty much gets squished from there? Maybe it has to do with relative speed, as it is, the difference here would greatly reduce reaction time around a corner, especially if the other lane is blocked (and we're not talking about professional drivers in that case). Crash test dummies should be our celebrities methinks (relatively speaking, she died on US 90, among others).
     
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