CARB question.

No, I can't imagine there are points because.......CSA is a federal regulatory body or points system..CARB is strictly California and has nothing to do with CSA. Here's what I want to know......If you are ticketed by the Air Nazis, what if you just don't pay the ticket? What are they going to do? I've already heard CHP will not enforce the laws and I can't imagine they would put a warrant out for your arrest for this. To me, a CARB ticket has the legal equivalent to a noise ticket like stereo too loud or jake brake. Can someone clarify this?

As far as the poster's original question, I have not heard that and highly doubt it because if that were the case there would be no need for CARB.

 

I run a CA registered 04 Volvo isx 530. Its not "CARB compliant" and so far no one has touched me. Just renewed reg till June 2015.

 

It depends on the broker. TQL and CH have disclaimers on the rate sheets basically stating that you certify your equipment is compliant. I had to fill out a form for Coyote. Those are the one's I remember. I've never had a shipper or receiver come and check my unit for compliance and at first glance you would assume it is not because it's an '07 but has a new engine. As I said in my previous post, they literally would have to mobilize every LEO in the state to even put a dent in the number of non-compliant trucks on the road out there. It seems to me they're just going after the large corporations because they are easy to get the money out of. A couple years ago a guy driving my truck was stopped at the Cajon scales and they checked his DPF with a scope but I haven't actually talked to anyone else that's been inspected since then.

This is a sore subject for me because I spent extra money on the tractor I bought to be compliant and I hate the dang thing. I WISH I'd have bought a glider and just rolled the dice. Even if I got popped every year it wouldn't add up to the yearly cost of DEF + emission related repairs. My trailer was an ok deal and happens to be compliant so I'm not so ticked about that. Bottom line, SCREW CARB!

 

This insane CRAP is gonna be enforced by the shippers!!!! YEAH!!! CA carb is essentially going to shift the enforcement portion onto shippers.......it's basically that way now with reefers I am told. Some port loads ( OF ALL THINGS) are getting fussy..........and yet the local JUNK hauling cans....oh this makes my blood pressure go up!!!!!!

 

Just FYI, people that are getting tickets.. Make sure what their tickets are for. Reefers have been known to get cited for not having a dpf installed.. No one has been touching trucks. Yet.

 

Not to make this a political issue but it is ...

There is a good reason for this, California knows that if they start issuing tickets, it is against federal laws and the constitution. One of the reasons is that there is no possible way for California to enforce a law that requires special equipment on a truck to enter and access the markets within the border of California.

What also reinforces the issue of access to markets is having a shipper, receiver or a company deciding not to allow access to the dock, this is really a problem that closes off markets in California through the CARB regulations.

 

BINGO!
If or when they ever do start enforcing CARB standards, it will be a civil violation (California Vehicle Code) not criminal. They will issue a summons to appear in court, if you do not show you will be issued an FTA (failure to appear) NOT a bench warrant. It is a judges discretion whether to issue a bench warrant. My guess is, most judges will treat this like CHP treats CARB. Its a joke, the only people in California taking CARB seriously are tree huggers and CARB employees.
Think of it as a seat belt ticket, have you ever heard of someone being arrested because they didn't show up in court for a seatbelt ticket? It could happen but probably never will.

 

CARB is complete joke. They want to enforce this law but are afraid to ,especially on out-of-state trucks for fear of the backlash

 

their temporary allowance is this.

CA in state trucks are allowed to drive 1000 miles per year in the state. long haul operations are allowed to drive in CA up to 5000 miles throughout the country.

so if your an instate truck and drive over 1000 miles in the state or if your long haul operation that drives more then 5000 miles throughout the country. then you've got problems.

i've heard operating authorities get revoked for not paying their fines. every story i've heard has been a different circumstance. but regardless, don't pay, don't operate. i can't put any truth to them stories. so take that as you will.

i don't know about the enforcement operations. but if you read TTR or listen to the radio. companies ARE getting fined. by either carb or some white van. carb wants your money, so they can fund their own department and research. with a small portion going to something else.

 

See I figured CARB would get to some companies or O/Os and fine them. But as a whole it seems there are so MANY semis out there that they'll never have to resources to force everyone into compliance. I have been trying to get info from CARB without fully giving them all of our info and they talk about heavy fines that can be repeated monthly and how they'll have a particulate matter measuring machine at certain checkpoints or truck stops but I dont see any of this happening.

Do you have an idea of how much ppl are being fined? And I havent heard of them revoking your authority. I thought only the DOT/FMCSA could do that?