Light bar. Not vital, I guess.
Whatever dude. You take your chances using your brain power and I'll do the same.
Is this legal? *pix inside*
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by w.h.o, Oct 13, 2014.
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Bent, yes--Cracked,yes--Could it fall off going down the oad, probably----Hmmmmm failed the first three...Must need a new one.
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Sadly, your argument lacks merit. The light bar is NOT vital to the structural integrity of the truck, nor is it vital to occupant safety. Heck, magnets are more than sufficient to legally secure tail lights & turn signals to a vehicle.
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If whoever cut it with a Torch had done a neater job
& cut along the level with the bottoms of the oval holes.
A quick squirt with rattle can of Black paint.
very few people would've known the difference at first (or even second) glance..........
FWIW ( yeah I know not much)
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Doesnt this really all depend on the interpretation of the DOT officer doing the inspection?
As a driver I would note the "apparent to me" defect of the truck on a post trip inspection form, write it up as such( our company is electronic so we have a seperate mechanism to alert maintenance. The Mechanic can then put HIS NAME to the fact he determines it does not need repaired. and clear the write up. -
I could see a DOT officer who is having a bad day and taking it out on you, say that the damaged cross member effects the integrity of the frame and put you out of service. If its broken damaged or missing dot can make an issue out of it. An example: a driver was written up by a dot officer because his windshield washer reservoir was empty, however he had two gallons of windshield washer fluid in his truck. We all know if his windshield got dirty he would have pulled over and filled it, but he was written up anyway
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Thanks for the replies. Clearly as a driver anything that doesn't seem right or safe, I'll get it check out. But I think it depends on the dot officer. If it was trim evenly and painted, it might be overlook. You guys made a point that it isn't part of the frame since its bolted on.
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It's ugly but it's not illegal. That's the result of drivers catching the pin for whatever reason.
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If I were doing an inspection on this vehicle today:
I'd cite it for a violation of 393.201
(a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be cracked, loose, sagging or broken.(b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab or the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or missing.(c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.(d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of a commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also be in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.(e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except as specified by the manufacturer.
Keep in mind:
Are cross members of Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV)s considered part of the frame?Guidance: Yes.
I would not place the vehicle OOS. UNLESS I determined that any suspension parts have also been removed.
Just saying.....w.h.o Thanks this.
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