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has anyone heard of this regulation? or is this true?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Jabber1990, Oct 15, 2014.

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  1. Oct 15, 2014 #1
    Jabber1990

    Jabber1990 Road Train Member

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    I was talking to Saftey today and they mentioned that under FMCSA law that you are to flag a pre-trip but do a 15-minute post-trip. (in my opinion that's backwards) another company had mentioned this to me once and I just in 1-ear-out-the-other. they explained that in theory you notice the broken parts and other stuff during your post-trip so that you have 10 hours to get in fixed, if you notice broken parts during your pre-trip you're screwed your 14 doesn't stop. you can't rip the log out because that's illegal. This is one of the few laws they haven't updated since 1932

    I have never heard of this rule before and it wasn't mentioned at anywhere else i've worked

    another driver had told me this is true. does anyone know if this is true?
     
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  3. Oct 15, 2014 #2
    TLeaHeart

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    can be company policy, but is NOT an fmsca rule....

    Fmsca says to log the ACTUAL time it takes to complete each task.
     
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  4. Oct 15, 2014 #3
    CargoWahgo

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    Dvir is a post trip.

    Doesn't get logged though.
     
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  5. Oct 15, 2014 #4
    Jabber1990

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    does D stand for Driver or Daily?
     
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  7. Oct 15, 2014 #5
    STexan

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    That's the way my last company wanted it done, too. I think it is more of a company policy thing then a specific FMCSA rule(s). On eLogs, they were happy with a flagged pre-trip at start of drive, and 9+ minutes at end of day
     
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  8. Oct 15, 2014 #6
    OutOfIdeas

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    Im on Elogs, my company makes us log 10 minutes, beginning and end of shift, and complete a VIR one per shift.
     
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  9. Oct 15, 2014 #7
    STexan

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    That sucks ... that's 60 less miles every week. And 60 fewer minutes available for cushion when you get down near your 70hr cap if you ever have a busy week. The things that consume the most time in a safety inspection happen to be the same things that can't change as you sleep. (Someone going to swipe one of your brake shoes while you sleep?)
     
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  10. Oct 15, 2014 #8
    MsJamie

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    Daily Vehicle Inspection Report.
     
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  11. Oct 15, 2014 #9
    skibum_63

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    why don't you get a copy of the latest FMCSA regulations, and read up on this?
    Your going to get varying answer from every one and how they do it per their company rules.
     
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  12. Oct 16, 2014 #10
    Emulsified

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    FMCSA simply says you must complete a full vehicle inspection for each day your truck is in service.
    Log the actual time.
    Companies have long set minimum times, whether they want a pretrip or post trip or both.
    If a company policy exceeds FMCSA, then it's what you need to go by. Company policy can exceed FMCSA rules, but it cannot truncate them.
     
    Emulsified, Oct 16, 2014
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