Lever binders

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by hoss699, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. hoss699

    hoss699 Bobtail Member

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    Are lever binders still leagal? I recently sent my wife to the local truck parts store to pick up 3 lever (snap) binders and she came back with only 1. They told her they would no longer be stocking them because they are now illegal. Some of the companies in this area don't like them but I was unaware that they had been outlawed. Is this true?
     
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  3. ramblingman

    ramblingman Road Train Member

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    Bull****. They probably oughta be though. I had one put upside down and way too tight on a pre-loaded trailer so i couldn't really safely release it. When that thing came loose the bar flew over 20' away.
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    no, you can still buy them.

    i got told that once from a trailer supply store also. i'm guessing there's a better markup on ratchets or maybe they had a lawsuit.

    i needed a chain for a load i picked up in fontana. they had some out to buy.
     
  5. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Being how your in the oil patch area, here's the low down.
    Alot of rig companies will not allow lever binders.
     
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    Hi ramblingman, who would have thought flatbed would be so dangerous? When I hauled heavy equipment, an old timer told me to make sure the chain links all lined up, and that binder should never turn or loosen, unless something shifts, and he was right. I'm sure that's why the binder turned. There's really no reason to have a binder that tight. They must have had a 6 foot cheater bar. Lever binders have been around longer than I have. We could always tell a flatbed puller by how many teeth were missing.
     
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  7. DrtyDiesel

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    When I worked for Lonestar owner ops were the only ones allowed to have snap binders and even then they couldn't use them if they were hauling a load for SHELL.
     
  8. ramblingman

    ramblingman Road Train Member

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    [QUOTE="semi" retired;4302799]Hi ramblingman, who would have thought flatbed would be so dangerous? When I hauled heavy equipment, an old timer told me to make sure the chain links all lined up, and that binder should never turn or loosen, unless something shifts, and he was right. I'm sure that's why the binder turned. There's really no reason to have a binder that tight. They must have had a 6 foot cheater bar. Lever binders have been around longer than I have. We could always tell a flatbed puller by how many teeth were missing.[/QUOTE]

    I'd agree with you, but unfortunately my company trains a whole bunch of noobs in flatbedding most of which don't stick around long enough to figure out what the hell they're doing. Consequently, these pre-loaded trailers are often times more trouble than they're worth.

    I knew it was going to happen when I saw what he had done. I stood on the proper side of it and let er go when that thing came loose. Not much else to do short of cutting the chain. Still pretty spectacular though seeing a bar fly that far.

    My company won't issue Ratchet binders unless your on a specialty fleet. I was running an RGN coast to coast for a couple weeks and got stocked up on em :D.
     
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  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    the shop that told me they were illegal, WAS a tanker dealer and repair shop. had to go down the street to a full blown trailer dealer for snaps.
     
  10. 201

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    Hi snowwy, that sounds like a cruel ethnic joke, a tanker dealer selling load binders.:biggrin_2559:
     
  11. hoss699

    hoss699 Bobtail Member

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    It's true ConocoPhillips, Shell, and others don't want you using snap binders. But, for years I've used them just to keep my 4X4's on the trailer and no one has ever had a problem with that. I just had concerns when the parts store said they wouldn't be stocking them any more because there now illegal.
     
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