There are some great options out there for smartphone logging apps, Big Road being one of them. My qusetion is that if I hand my phone over to DOT so they can look at my daily log am I also opening my phone to inspection? For the law to inspect your phone they need a subpeona but when you are using it as a device to meet DOT regulation on log books I wonder if that now makes the entire device subject to a search.
Nothing crazy on my phone but I dont like the idea of surrendering my right to privacy because of a convienent logging app.
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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by crackinwise, Oct 30, 2014.
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Lets say you do hand it over and the inspectors walks into the back room, so now what ? You have no idea what they're doing back there, right ?
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Its simple really. Buy a tablet , download the app and use hot spot from your phone for the tablet .
You can buy a cheap tablet anywhere for under 100 bucks.
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Be aware - with Bigroad and Keeptruckin apps and such - NON-AOBR - you must be able to PRINT your previous day logs upon request. On YOUR printer - not fax or email. That is the DOT requirement.
With these apps becoming very popular it is becoming quite common here at the scale. However, we do NOT like to handle any electronic device of yours, liability issues and all. Much easier and safer to deal with printouts.Panhandle flash and Cat sdp Thank this. -
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...not only that, but when a citation is issued for a log violation and the officer seizes the logs in question as evidence, I'm sure you'd prefer to have them keep a piece of paper rather than your smartphone or tablet...
Why do folks these days feel as though the good old fashion paper logs are more than they can handle? Whether it is an on-board recorder or a tablet/smartphone app, you STILL need to fool with it to update your duty status and note your BOL, etc. I've had plenty of issues with computers crapping out or electronic gadgets not doing what I want them to...never have that problem with paper. As long as my pen has ink, it works...and if my pen runs out, I've got another one clipped to my visor.Scalemaster, tsavory and kemosabi49 Thank this. -
Your right to privacy has already been tossed out the window with cameras, GPS recordings and smartphones tracking purchases and locations. Its easy to say "Well dont use your phone then" but the point is no matter what you use are you opening ALL of the data on the device to a search since you now consider it a record of duty for a commercial vehicle? A lot of drivers mentioned that they use these apps to record their logs so it might be worth looking into before you get to be the lucky dog caught in the middle of a privacy fight because you got pulled over by super cop. -
Wouldn't it still be printing coming over your fax?
Just wondering if this is a local interpetation or the law acually states that it must be on the drivers printer?
Has this been fought in court yet?Last edited: Oct 30, 2014
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"If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection." (emphasis mine)
Basically, "the driver must... print". Not fax, not email. You cannot assume I have a fax machine (I don't) or an email you could send something to (I don't). (this is not a truck stop, I do not promise to have those services)
Besides, as has been mentioned, do you really want me to have to seize your tablet or smart phone as evidence if I issue a citation on your logs? I would rather have it on paper, and so would you.Last edited: Oct 30, 2014
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