I'm wondering about that 60/7 vs 70/8 rule. Seems like a wrench in the spokes, when local work is typically mon-fri, and a driver could be out of time by thu (following the 14hr rule), if the company didn't deliver on Sunday too (which is probably not common).
What's the point, if they say it's safe for a long haul driver to work 70 hrs in 5 days if they like?
Do they not like locals driving 5 days/week?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by camionneur, Nov 1, 2014.
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Most local haul under the 100 air mile rule. 12 hours a day 60 a wk
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The schedule is determined by the rules and the carriers style of operation. If he runs 7 days a week then 70/8 or if he runs less then 60/7
Frequently ( like LTL guys ) the carrier has 2 types of operations under 1 roof and the 60/7 would cripple his road trucks so he runs the 70/8 for everybody. I'm not sure if it's law or not but I haven't seen a carrier split the fleet...it's one way or another and that could be a matter of convenience .....much like all drivers have to do everything and have the same license.
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Well, while I'm not sure what you mean, I'll try and take a stab at this.
Most local drivers don't hit their 14 on a daily basis. I know I haven't had a 14 hour day in a while, and never had more than two in a row. Yes you could run outta hours I'm five days, but so can an OTR driver. But the likelihood of that happening is rare. Our company runs Sunday night to Saturday mornings, each driver works five days a week. Usually a 12 hour shift. Some start Sunday evening and finish Friday morning. Some start Monday morning and finish Friday evening. One guy starts his week Monday night and finishes Saturday morning. For us, the HOS rules are a non issue.
The 60/7 or 70/8 is determined by the carrier according to their operation. We happen to use 70/8, as we do have some OTR work. The local guys stay in a 150 mile radius, so we use time sheets instead of log books -
I understand how it is determined, but not why. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the driver, except for falling on their shoulders to comply with a double standard.
I just started somewhere, and heard they don't do Sundays, but am working 14hr days, so I'll have to ask their headquarters if they operate 7 days anywhere in the country, so I can work mon-fri, as needed. Otherwise I might not be able to get the job done (or the dot will be able say I'm a wreckless driver, or some bs for that, I'm trying not to piss them off though, however arbitrary the regulations are), and it's quite lame that it really has nothing to do with the driver, when I could work the 70 on mon-fri, if, and only if, some other driver delivers on Sunday.Last edited: Nov 1, 2014
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And I didn't answer your question...sorry....no carriers don't like drivers working only 5 days. Truck management has a stereo type of the typical driver and his typical responses and needs...a model if you will.
The typical carrier is not going to let a driver work 5 days and cash a grand...too short and too much. More typically ( my payroll gal ) was instructed to notify corporate if the driver grossed more than 2 grand in 2 weeks.
In another example I hustled when I hauled crude as did several others. I pulled some serious checks....until truck management limited the number of bbls I could haul to less than 160. ( 120 plus gravity but under 160 ) Which crippled my check.
In my last example my friend at another carrier was taken off hourly to standards. Point was to curb his check....he was running 70/8 in the city ( needed for road drivers ) and was working all 70 to cap his retirement. He fell from 93 to 68k a year....so he retired......much to their dismay.....and you know? I don't think they got it.......
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What are you saying, chalupa? That the company I work for wouldn't want me to work this schedule? Well, they do. I just need to find out if it complies with the dumbest rule in trucking (unless someone can explain how it makes any sense).
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pattyj Thanks this.
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I only work Monday through Friday and around 55 hours a week. I would never work a 6 day week and I can count on 1 hand the 14 hour days I've put in
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Well then, I must have the hardest workin' job in truckin', and might have to go in and kick the tires on Sunday, to call it a day.
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