How is this situation logged?

When I used to drive local for a pallet factory delivering pallets in the winter and running a walking floor in the summer, we had a foreman in the plant who filled in occasionally when someone was off and it was too busy for the other 3 drivers to handle it all. He did the same thing. Our boss, who was strictly a "by the book" guy looked into this very thing I'm sure. So I feel pretty confident when I say you're boss is right and he's 100% legal.

 

If nothing else, maybe not good to get into a wiz-match with the Boss on your 1st day ?

 

As long as he's logging everything when he's behind the wheel, he should be good. If he's working a desk job in between, as long as it doesn't carry over and violate the HOS, his normal time card (Office hrs worked) combined with his logs should be enough if you get an FMCSA audit. If he was going out and not logging his trips from start to finish, no brainer there.

Now, in the event, say he was out OTR, maxes out his 70 hours right as he pulls in the yard and parks, (can't run off a recap as he's maxed out) comes off the road, and straight back into the desk job for the next 2 days, w/o a break and goes right back behind the wheel on the 3rd day, then, you (He) has a problem with the 34hr provision.

 

The man that signs the pay checks has a 99.9% chance of being right.

 

I'm pretty sure the boss is correct in this instance..You only need to show previous 7 days, which of course he can show on one page showing multiple days off...othewise where's the cutoff...I once spent 18 months out of a truck...did I need to log every one of those days in the 18 months between driving?

 

To be legal he needs to accurately log his "on duty, not driving" time for the previous week. He can't just log "off duty" if he's been working in the office.

 

I am reading into this of course; what do you mean by "when he is in the office"?
1. He isn't in the office on a regular basis?
2. He "pops in" now and again?
3. He works a regular "40 hour week" in the office...give or take the total hours of course?

Questions:
1. Does he "clock in" like a regular employee, with a time card?
2. How many hours each week does he "work", both in the office, and off site meetings?
3. Is his travel time to meetings, during the work week logged?
4. Does the operation remain within the 100 mile air radius of the company headquarters? (out for 3 or 4 days...probably not)

These questions need answers to give you a better understanding of how a person working both office and driving would be required (technically) to log. Keep in mind, a "log week" is 8 days and an "office week" is generally considered 7 days.

PM me if you want some more specific answers.

 

Go get a new job yesterday..Even I can see problems on the way..

 

In reality this will work.....but its grey....itll get you by on a dot on the road....but to be in full compliance....he would need to do 7logs...w/everyday in the office or doin anything official logged as line 4 for the hours spent...and keep runnin tally.....but if he is anything like my boss (lil older&not in office full time)you/he really wouldn't have any trouble.....