Voluntary OOS

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by road_runner, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. road_runner

    road_runner Road Train Member

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    Are there any legal repercussions for pulling into a weigh station, volunteering a number of known defects to the DOT officer so he can put your truck out of service?

    The problem is this: I feel like I am sitting on a ticking time bomb. My management will not allow me to turn my truck in for maintenance. The primary reason is that our fleet has a shortage of trucks. For the past several weeks I have been writing up issue after issue and I am not allowed to turn in the vehicle. I get the constant "as long as the truck can still move forward, you are ok".

    Here is a short list of things I have written up week after week:

    Leaking excessive amounts of oil (1-1.5 quarts/day)
    Bald trailer tires (0/32 inch thread, measured on six different areas on tire)
    Four marker lights out on trailer
    Electrical Horn: IN-OP
    Left turn signal: IN-OP
    Corroded Electrical cord (causing lights to flicker occasionally)
    Speedometer: IN-OP (after 35 MPH)
    Tachometer: IN-OP
    Dashboard backlight: IN-OP on entire left side

    I already know I am gonna get some responses along the lines of finding a new carrier or "get the hell off the road". But the job market sucks in my area and I need the job to keep my lights on. I only had two DOT inspections in the past four years and they were all driver logs only. Despite my string of good luck of just moving along, these mechanical issues only happened over the past several months. Any thoughts?
     
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  3. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    You do that, and you're not getting a job because those points go on your PSP and you've blackballed yourself from the industry. Now, lights on the trailer are easy, just replace them. 5 minutes per light isn't going to kill you. A tach is not required. Neither are dashlights. Buy a new electrical cord, they aren't more than $70. Turn in the receipt. Get to the yard and instist on the other issues being addressed. Remember, you're driving the truck. You've made the choice to drive it as is "over the last several months".

    You're not a bright guy, you're the one who was asking why your chains would break at 60 mph. And you've now also admitted to driving unsafe equipment (your words, by the way) for not a day, not a week, but several months. Yes, it's their responsibility to take care of their equipment. And it's your responsibility to make sure that every time you drive that truck onto public roadways that it is safe and legal. You pull that truck in to a weigh station (and go right ahead there in Oregon, they'll crucify you and the company) and you'll have so many points on your CSA it'll look like a basketball game score. Man up, demand that the equipment is road worthy, or don't drive it. You're once again putting other drivers at risk and it ain't cool.
     
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  4. road_runner

    road_runner Road Train Member

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    Only useful advice I got out of that is to not volunteer my truck to be put out of service. Thanks though.
     
  5. aduiepyle

    aduiepyle Light Load Member

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    Oh Funny, just keep doing it nd make sure you don't get caught in ohio because it's going to be a lot to discover in your psp nd csa. First you should have tell them you are not driving it until the issues has been taken care of nd now you tryna get a voluntary oos like that's not okay, make up your mind nd do the right thing next time because if anything happens it's your fault because you are a professional driver nd you are responsible for your safety nd the safety of others.
     
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  6. free2frog

    free2frog Medium Load Member

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    Leaking excessive amounts of oil (1-1.5 quarts/day) leaking as in you see it leaking or there is a puddle under the truck or is just low every morning buy some stop leak

    Bald trailer tires (0/32 inch thread, measured on six different areas on tire) park at TA/Petro or any place with a repair shop that the company use's let the air out of one of the tires, call the company I got a flat
    Four marker lights out on trailer ever get by the company yard do they have a bone yard if so get some spare parts other wise go buy and replace them if the company wont reimburse you write them off on tax's
    Electrical Horn: IN-OP same as marker light answer
    Left turn signal: IN-OP same as marker light answer
    Corroded Electrical cord (causing lights to flicker occasionally) remove cord from truck and trailer buy 2 Cokes dumpster dive for a couple of large coffee cups stick one end of cord in each cup fill with coke and let it sit over nite, buy an Emory board ( nail file) clean the pins on the truck and trailer buy some electrical grease ( 1.00) at auto zone
    Speedometer: IN-OP (after 35 MPH) There an App for that or use Gps
    Tachometer: IN-OP not sure why you need this if you have been driving for more than week
    Dashboard backlight: IN-OP on entire left side

    You say management wont let you turn the truck in for repairs so you never get by the yard for a 34hr reset, a lot on your list are simple fix that you should know how to do and have the tools with you to do There is more to being a truck drive than just driving a truck
     
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  7. Trckdrvr

    Trckdrvr Heavy Load Member

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    Get a better job.
     
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  8. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    DOT is going to hammer you real good for driving a truck in that condition.
    The DOT cops will remind you, "You're not forced to drive the truck; you chose to drive it knowing it's not safe." Your boss isn't going to fix the truck so it's time to move on or face the consequences.

    Read your signature and heed your own advice:
    "Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna SUCK!!!"


     
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  9. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    before all this csa stuff came out I use to do that pull into a station and report things and been put out of service to make a company fix.....last time I did do that, it was for bald tires in cali. but cali, says, that as long as they hold air its not an OOS failure. So was given a fix it ticket. (that the company paid for) and as soon as i got to a yard the company replaced the tires.

    Now that csa has started up, all you doing is opening a can of worms, that can hurt your chances of being able to find a job with another employer, as most are using the csa data in order to figure out whether to hire you are not.

    This is one thing I didn't like about csa because it took the power of the driver away when a company wouldn't fix something. (now if a company wont fix safety issue things best thing is to find another job with a company that will keep their equipment up to spec.)
     
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  10. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Ah.. Another post that requires some magic answer yet also demands no response that leaving a company that sets the "victim" up to get hammered on their CSA/PSP score is allowable... Using the OP's rules.. apparently I cannot respond... so...see ya
     
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  11. walstib

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    Yes, you'd be an idiot to even consider that...First, if you've even made it to a weigh station you're a complete idiot driving a truck with that many defects...YOU will have done nothing but prove YOU are a hazard to others on the road...If assigned that truck, after checking it out, why would you do anything other than laugh and ask, "ok, that was funny, where's my real truck?"...If you did anything other than that, it's all on you, IMO(yours may vary)...The company can ask anything of you, you doing that anything is when the problem starts(and if you don't leave a company asking you to do those things, it's ALL on you, imo)...
     
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