Off duty driving- privilage or law ?

As always, there are misinterpretations of what 'laden' means. 'Laden' doesn't mean 'bobtail'. It means that you are performing a work related task. In different situations, you can be 'laden' while bobtailing.

Bobtailing to a yard or customer to pick up a trailer = laden
Bobtailing to a TS for fuel = laden
Taking an empty trailer to a parking spot, or home = not laden

 

you need a better dictionary, laden only pertains to being loaded or empty. the bobtail situation depends on if you are under dispatch or getting paid, not load status.

your example deals more with on or off duty status, not being laden or unladen. ever wpnder where the term bill of lading comes from, laden lading see the connection?

 

Your understanding of certain parts of the HOS rules, as indicated by your posts in this thread, is incorrect. You are a good candidate for a big fine if you get stopped. You need to read and understand the rules for both the U.S and Canada. You also need to make sure you are clear on company policies as they may be more strict than some of the HOS rules.

1. DO NOT run two logs (paper and e-log). If you get stopped and show this to an enforcement officer you could get a citation for falsifying your logs.
2. Off-duty driving (also known as personal conveyance) CANNOT be used for the three conditions you have posted above: traffic, weather, or parking. There is a provision for adverse driving conditions that can be used, but it is difficult to get it accepted and it does not apply to: known weather conditions, most traffic, or lack of parking due to poor planning.

 

drive 500 miles on personal conveyance, watch how fast you get OOS.

you can be under a load. and disconnect for personal conveyance. i mean seriously, how many of you are going too drag your load around for the weekend, while you do whatever it is you want to do for the weekend, NOT sitting at a truckstop. or if you get a motel. your semi is your only transportation.

there are lotsa reasons to use personal conveyance. and a lot of truckers that have the wrong idea of personal conveyance.

personal conveyance is not to be used for just any reason you feel like it. it's for use when your releived of duty and need your truck, basically speaking. without using your hos.

for some reason, a lot of you think you can just use it at you own convenience, and that's not the case.

 

Well the bears up at the Truckee Scalehouse told me that if I am relieved of all duty and I was using the tractor to get home it did not matter how far I drove. Considering they write the tickets and you don't, I am going to go with the actual written Fed regs as a guideline.

The only caveat the said was if I ran into a cop who did not interpret the law the way it was written I might get wrote up, and then have to explain to the judge how I was following the rulebook.

Kinda like the cops who think a rental truck needs to show a carrier name on the door immediately, and the law actually says within 30 days.

Not all cops know the law and not all truck drivers do either.

 

That's exactly my point. You reiterated my statement. If what you're doing needs to be done on line 4, you can't use PC, bobtail or not.

 

Obviously the FMCSA regulations are so technically written that lawmen, company safety departments, and drivers have to interpret them the best way they know how...Who really knows the correct interpretation? I don't even think the dingbats that legislate them fully understand them, and we ALL know they don't really have any clue about the industry and what it's like to be a truck driver...A lawyer would have to spend a lengthy amount deciphering the codes to correctly understand them, and the only time that would happen is in a court case in which the regulations would apply either for or against the actions of a driver...
Yep. The rest of us think we know all the answers because we use logic to try and make sense of it all, but to the bureaucrats in D.C., we are all just a bunch of rubes.
Good luck in doing the right thing drivers!!!