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For all of you log book experts out there. I have been off the road for almost 3 years. It looks like I am going to be going back to work for FedEx Ground within the next couple of weeks. Can anyone tell me with the new HOS rules, can a team still use the split sleeper. I know when the new rules came out we were still permitted to use the split sleeper rule for solo operation. I heard that they either did away with that or were going to thanks to P.A.T.T. and C.R.A.S.H.. Any help on this one would be appreciated.

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For all of you log book experts out there. I have been off the road for almost 3 years. It looks like I am going to be going back to work for FedEx Ground within the next couple of weeks. Can anyone tell me with the new HOS rules, can a team still use the split sleeper. I know when the new rules came out we were still permitted to use the split sleeper rule for solo operation. I heard that they either did away with that or were going to thanks to P.A.T.T. and C.R.A.S.H.. Any help on this one would be appreciated.

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They did not do without split sleeper berth. Many will say they did, however that is not the truth! You can split break, however it changed from what you are used to. The only way to extend the 14 hour clock now is to take an 8 hour sleeper break. If you take a minimum of 2 but less than 8 now it will NOT extend that 14 hour clock, however will work towards the 8 hour break.

So now you must have # least a minimum 2 hour break followed by an 8 hour break.

No more 3 + 7 etc.

I have a sticky thread on the most important threads of this section and it should give you a basic idea of that change.

It's up to you weather you want to do it or not. Most teams don't use a split anymore.
Feel free to ask more questions, I won't guarantee when I will reply, but I am sure by Sunday evening I will be on here
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They did not do without split sleeper berth. Many will say they did, however that is not the truth! You can split break, however it changed from what you are used to. The only way to extend the 14 hour clock now is to take an 8 hour sleeper break. If you take a minimum of 2 but less than 8 now it will NOT extend that 14 hour clock, however will work towards the 8 hour break.

So now you must have # least a minimum 2 hour break followed by an 8 hour break.

No more 3 + 7 etc.

I have a sticky thread on the most important threads of this section and it should give you a basic idea of that change.

It's up to you weather you want to do it or not. Most teams don't use a split anymore.
Feel free to ask more questions, I won't guarantee when I will reply, but I am sure by Sunday evening I will be on here
Ok I'm even more confused now.. I used to run 8's when teaming, that way no one gets stuck running nights the whole time. So are you saying we CAN run 8 and 8 or do we have to run 10 and 10? Which means someone gets screwed running nights the whole time we are out? Been there done that and hated it. I will give you one guess who got hosed in the deal. I had a partner, that insisted on running 10's and he was the lead driver.
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Unfortunatly, it will have to be ten and ten. The driver can run 8 with a 2 hour break before or after the 8 hours, but for you to take over driving you will have to have 10 hours in the sleeper. I myself can't and never have been able to go ten straight but they have dictated that is "what I need". Hope this helps.
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Unfortunatly, it will have to be ten and ten. The driver can run 8 with a 2 hour break before or after the 8 hours, but for you to take over driving you will have to have 10 hours in the sleeper. I myself can't and never have been able to go ten straight but they have dictated that is "what I need". Hope this helps.
Yes that helps a lot thanks. I wonder what effect this new court ruling is going to have on that.

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None, they are not changing the split sleeper time rules. Who ownes the truck, I used to work for a couple of guys out there
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