Is this app DOT acceptable?

Sir, would you like to borrow my lance?

 

sweet baby jesus, lets don't get that started, lol

 

I've been using the keep trucking app and keeping track of my logs. It definitely makes things easy. If I was otr, I would only use it if I have a printer in my truck. I work local and print my logs to keep in my notebook and I have a regular paper log that's blank in case I get pulled and need to transfer that days log onto paper if the officer can't receive email or fax where he or she is if we're on the roadside

 

Had three inspections with KeepTrucking pulled over on the road (2 in NV and 1 in SD). Never was asked to print and clean inspection.
Just use a DOT inspection mode.

It's just the same thing with any other application. The more people use the better it is become

 

If you come in my scale with your phone app, you will need to have a printer capable of printing your log sheets to be in compliance with 395.8.

The guidance which says "driver must be given an opportunity to print" means exactly that - PRINT. Not fax, not email. Not print using my printer. Not transfer by hand to a paper log.

YOU must be able to PRINT upon request.

 

Got it, for that reason I carried a printer in my truck when I was OTR. Made printing permits easier too with oversize loads.


The reason I use it is because I mostly run intrastate. FHP requires drivers using e-logs to be able to transfer the logs to a regular paper log. An officer came to our company when we had a safety meeting and that was one thing even our terminal manager didn't know. He thought if our Qualcomm went down mid way through the shift, they could email the logs to the officer. He said that's not true, that we are required to carry a paper log in the truck to transfer the logs to if the officer can't receive them via email or fax.


At my new company we still run paper, I like the app better and print my logs every night to keep with me. I also carry a paper log to transfer that days logs to if dot requires it instead of just going off the logs on my phone (in Florida anyway)

 

K.....so what state r u from,Kieth?

 

Maybe you did not get the memo?

Hours of Service for Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers; Regulatory Guidance Concerning Records of Duty Status Generated by Logging Software Programs

Action:Notice of regulatory guidance.
Summary:FMCSA revises its regulatory guidance concerning records of duty status (RODS) generated by logging software programs on laptop computers, tablets, and smartphones. These logging software programs are used by certain drivers to help them prepare RODS, but the computers, tablets, and smartphones with such software do not meet FMCSA's requirements for automatic on-board recording devices (AOBRDs). The revision of the guidance clarifies the relationship between the Agency's policy concerning the use of logging software programs and the Agency's January 4, 2011, regulatory guidance concerning electronic signatures by removing the requirement that drivers print and sign paper copies of RODS generated through such logging software, provided the driver is able to sign the RODS electronically at the end of each work day and display the electronic record at the roadside. This guidance provides the motor carrier industry, and Federal, State, and local motor carrier enforcement officials with uniform information regarding computer software and devices used by drivers to assist them with hours-of-service (HOS) recordkeeping. All prior Agency interpretations and regulatory guidance, including memoranda and letters, are rescinded to the extent they are inconsistent with this guidance.
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Authority:79 FR 39342

 

Same here as Scalemaster. And I have stacks of "memos." If you come into this state and do not have the ability to print, you will be placed out of service.
If any state authorizes it's officers to handle and inspect cell phone apps, then that is fine. Many states allow its officers to do so. However, handling cell phones creates a liability and states pay out thousands due to these liability claims. Federal Motor Carrier has determined that any state that has good cause to request printed copies may do so.

Many hundreds of drivers have been placed OOS here due to an inability to print. Not one of these OOS violations has ever been overturned.

Somewhere down in the fine print on the Big Road website, it lists some states where even Big Road states that printing is required.

For anyone wanting to wade thru the entire list of requirements regarding printing, see the below document.



39342 Federal Register / Vol. 79, No. 132 / Thursday, July 10, 2014 / Rules and Regulations

 

Maybe you did not READ the memo.

You notice at the very end of the above referenced "memo"....

"If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection."

That is, the driver must print, not on my printer, not email, not fax.

Electronic logging software that is not an AOBR is still under the paper log rules of 395.8.

It has already been mentioned on this site that drivers do NOT want enforcement personnel poking around in their phones, etc. We do not want to handle your phones and tablets because if something happens, it is on us.

So, if you come in here with Keep Truckin on your phone - I will request that you go out and print today and the previous 7 days for me, just like 395.8 says you have to.