Logbook question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by CaptTerrific, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. CaptTerrific

    CaptTerrific Bobtail Member

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    Wanted to know if someone can clear this logbook question up for me.......

    How do you log a pick-up and a fuel stop in the same city?

    I had a pick up at company X (don't remember name of company) and literally drove across the street to take fuel. It took me under 30 minutes from time of pick up, get bol, go across the street, take fuel and be on my way.
    I logged it all on line 4. (pu/fuel in remarks section) Had this argument with my "safety officer".

    I was told to log it as 15 minutes on-duty for pick-up, driving for 15 minutes, and another 15 minutes on-duty for the fuel.
    Please help clarify.
     
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  3. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

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    If you logged 15min driving and it didn't take 15min of driving, seems like it would technically be falsifying log.
    I think you did it right.

    If I drive across the Street my elog won't even put me on the drive line.

    Curious to see what everybody else says.
     
  4. dca

    dca Road Train Member

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    You're link, of it is one won't open,

    On duty for the block, same town, in order, as long as it took
     
  5. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I'd do it just as you did. IMHO, you safety guy is an idiot.
     
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  7. Bout Z

    Bout Z Light Load Member

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    If you had logged it as your safety officer had said, and were stopped in those 15 mins, you would have been in violation. You were right to log it as you did.
     
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  8. NewbiusErectus

    NewbiusErectus Medium Load Member

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    In those situations, I log it as you did.

    as for your safety guy, I'd refer him to the FMCSA book. Technically, you should note the aggregate drive time under that on-duty segment (not4hire posted a link to a discussion on this), but you don't have to burn 15 min of drive time.

    However, IMO, if that little bit of driving doesn't put you over your 11 hours of drive time at the end of the day, why bother? I think the only way it would become a factor is if you were involved in an accident and there was a fatality or serious injury ,, and that 1 minute of driving put you over your 11 or 14. In other words, the extra minute of driving placed you somewhere where you were not legally able to be.
     
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  9. CaptTerrific

    CaptTerrific Bobtail Member

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    Yes my safety officer is an idiot! She's just started at the company (for about month now) all she knows is what the computer is telling her. Never been in a truck in her life.
     
  10. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    If you have multiple stops in the same city, the entire day could be logged as on duty not driving, except of course for your required breaks. This is take in that you spent your 10 off here also. You dont have to go to the drive line till your leaving that city.

    Your not saving your 70 or your 14 only your 11 for that days drive time.
     
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  11. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I agree but at the end of the day, you still have to tally all your "on duty not driving" & your "on duty driving" & show the amount of time you were not driving & the amount of time you were driving.
     
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