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I have a Florida CCP and would love to take my .357 with me.But,the company says no,so I leave it at home.I have had to park overnite in some shady places and wish I had it with me.Luckly nothing happened.I feel that as long as I stay in my truck I should be able to protect myself with a knife (which is still concidered by the law a deadly weapon) or a tire thumper.The problem is when I have to get out of the truck that I am most vunerable to attack.Thats when I wish I had my handgun on me.I know calling 911 is a waste of time,they just show up to write the report after it's all over.I used to say "I would rather be judged by a jury than carried to my grave".But,lately alot of these "good shoot" cases have been going against the person that defended themselves with a gun.So I guess my options are to carry a gun and chance prison time or chance becoming a victim and giving up my money and possibly my life.
+1 Good post. The nice thing about driveing a reliable truck is that there
is not much that can stop you and make you give up control of it. It
took 9-11 before people thought of arming pilots. Now we are going through backgroud testing and fingerprinting to have a hazmat endorcement. Whats it going to take for the government to let us
legally protect our load? I realize if you do a buch of research you
may be able to legally carry depending on who you work for. Who has
time to do that for every state thay go through? I would like to take my
wife camping on the Blue ridge parkway and have a 357 I bring on the
motorcycle. Its a sad state of affairs that I will have more to fear from
the government than I will from Bears or robbers. As for carrying in the
Truck, for me it would not be worth the hassle.
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I will probably get a bunch of "flack" after this post but here goes.

I am all for "the rights to bare arms", if they are for use in hunting. There is only ONE reason to own a handgun. That is to kill or wound another human being. I have NEVER seen or heard of anyone hunting with a handgun. The Virgnia Tech tragedy wouldn't have happened if handguns were not allowed to be owned by anyone other then the police.

Think about the proof needed to prove deadly force even by the police depts.

Own all the rifles, muskets, shotguns you want to protect your land(private) should anyone assault you there. I know that trucks are sometimes considered our homes, but think, when ever we are in them, we are on puplic domain property which means that, other then getting on or in the truck, the land around the perimeter of the truck is public. Fortunately, I have not had any issues to contend with about these issue when I was on the road. If one arises, I will take what ever action is available to me at the time. I have owned a handgun in the past but only since it was my fathers military Revolver. Upon his death, I donated to a local collector. Guess I'm a hipocrit for not melting it. Oh by the way...... there is NO firing pin in it anymore.

I don't want to offend anyone, just stating my thoughts, right or wrong.
Some people are just stupid!!! I know people who use handguns to hunt with. Also your comment about Virginia Tech. If more people carried guns that dumb ##### forener wouldn't have caused as much devastation as he did, cause someone else would have shot his dumba** as soon as he started gunning down innocent American civilians. Some people are just stupid!!! Outlawing guns won't do anything except take the guns from law abiding citizens. Criminals will always get guns taht is why the average law abiding person must be allowed to continue to own guns for protection from the criminals. As for carrying a gun in the truck I personally do not, I am not against it I just do not know enough about the laws in every place I go to to do it legally, and well I don't want to end up in serious trouble for illegally carrying a concealed weapon. But for those who do carry be safe and good luck with the laws and regulations where you choose to carry yor gun
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i used to drive in a state where the dot and statepolice told me i was crazy for not carring a concealed weapon toias you have noticed ive not mentioned any names for obivous reasons i ran this state on a regular basis
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I carry legally in MA & NH. I know the consequences for using deadly force-or even pulling it out of my pocket. the law is strict on this: I have to LEAVE the situation and REMOVE myself from the location if possible. If I am pursued with deadly force, I can respond likewise. And I DO NOT have to be a victum to defend myself in any situation that is life threatening.
I also know the consequenses for getting caught with it in the other 48 states. I will be in hot water if I use deadly force, but knowing the circumstances under which I can defend myself, I'd rather be alive and take my chances in court.
I carry ALL the time and therefore do not do anything stupid that will subject me to search. As for "no weapons allowed" signs, tell me really, do you think a sign is going to stop me? Company policy? same thing: I have to be stupid enough to give you reason to find my pistol.
Oh, and when I hunted I ALWAYS carried a big-bore sidearm (revolver). Common sense...
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People always use tragedy to try to take our guns away. If all the students # VT had handguns.....that sick punk might have gotten a couple.

If you take the guns away from the law abiding citizens.....then the only people with guns will be the crooks. People should know, IF YOU BREAK INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, YOU'RE GONNA GET SHOT. Same goes for my truck.....I spend more time there than I do # home....The way I see it...If someone wants to steal from me or the people that have hired me to deliver their product to the person that bought it....they will have to pay the ULTIMATE price.
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I carry ALL the time and therefore do not do anything stupid that will subject me to search. As for "no weapons allowed" signs, tell me really, do you think a sign is going to stop me? Company policy? same thing:


That is the point I am trying to make. You say the signs won't stop you or company policy? A law abiding citizen would do what is legal. Guess your not a law abiding citizen.
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That is the point I am trying to make. You say the signs won't stop you or company policy? A law abiding citizen would do what is legal. Guess your not a law abiding citizen.

Walt Disney World went through this fight about 5 years ago and lost horribly. They searched an employee vehicle without a warrant and found a .22 caliber handgun and amunition that the employee used for target shooting. They terminated the employee for violation of the park's no weapon policy. They lost in the Florida Supreme Court. The court stated that since the employee had primary ownership of the vehicle that the inside of the vehicle was to be considered his personnal property and not subject to company rules and policies. In other words, if you are an owner operater that is leased on with a company or under a lease purchase agreement, and have "primary ownership" of the vehicle, then the policy has no bearing on you. The same ruling was expanded by the Florida supreme court to acknowledge that the interior of a vehicle for which the person has "primary ownership" is not subject to corporate rules and policies but only to local state and federal laws. Thus shippers and receivers policy can not apply to the inside of the vehicle. The only exception would be federally regulated areas like airport commerce parks and seaports.
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Well when an O/O goes to court for parking at Walt Disney World and it is thrown out of court for having a gun inside the cab, then you can compare apples to apples. There is a big differnce in a CMV and a POV.
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Ok i carried a gun in my truck for years when i was on the road. Actually i carried 2. A flare gun in the cab close to the door and a sawed off double barrell 12 gauge in the sleeper. Now i went thru many DOT and even crossed the border several times and never had a problem. The flare gun was loaded with a white phosferous flare. ever seen what willie p does up close its a terrable deterant. and the 12 gauge loaded with 2.40 worth of dimes. 1.20 in each barrel. I was told by a highway patrol man years ago as long as the shotgun stayed in the sleeper it was in my house it was not considered a vehicle at that point and the flare gun was like you say a signaling device and if it happened to signal some scum bags demise so be it.
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