Originally Posted by 2xR

I have read the Second Amendment, and nowhere within did I find that a certain level of intelligence was mentioned as a precursor to the application of the right to keep and bear arms.

I realize the point you're making, and I don't really disagree with you, even though the argument is fundamentally flawed.

Honestly, with the gun laws we live with, if a person has passed the muster enough to be able to legally carry one, they have already demonstrated a fair amount if intelligence.

Originally Posted by notarps4me

I am not against guns as I own several. I used to carry a concealed weapon, but not in a CMV. I will take my chances on truckers not being able to pack. Not to mention all the places that do not allow weapons that we deliver too. With all the hate out here and road rage do you all really want some of these truckers packing??? All I need is to be parked between 2 CB rambo's who are breaking leather on each other.Some of these guys are not trained to use a tooth brush and ya'll want them to pack???

Originally Posted by notarps4me

Well go into any truckstop. Look at all the drivers. Listen to them. Turn on the CB. Now tell me the % of those out there that you would feel safe in knowing they were armed??

Originally Posted by roadkill439342

And how many of those you hear on the CB (that ARE carrying a gun) actually
have a legal permit to do so?
And just "looking" at truck drivers determines nothing except who needs a shower, haircut or a shave.

Originally Posted by notarps4me

I am a former trained fighter. I am trained in reading body language. I am always evaulating those around me.

Originally Posted by roadkill439342

You sound a little paranoid
LOL.....smell MY "Body Language"........

Originally Posted by notarps4me

Well go into any truckstop. Look at all the drivers. Listen to them. Turn on the CB. Now tell me the % of those out there that you would feel safe in knowing they were armed??

Originally Posted by DeMorcan

|I think perhaps a basic assumption o this discussion needs to be questioned. This is the idea that carrying a gun will enable its use to save you. I do not know how manyof you have seen a trained policeman have a shoot out with a driver he had stopped. They were 20 feet apart at opposite ends of a four wheeler. Each emtied his clip. No one was hit.

|The proper use of a gun as a weapon to kill someone requires training to the extent that it is instinct. If you have to think, draw the weapon, release the safety, aim and shoot, it is too late. When someone who is ready to kill you sees the movement towards the gun, you will be dead. If someone holds a gun on you and thinks he sees a movement for a gun, you will be dead. The person threatening you has already done all the thinking. All they have left to do is the reflex of pulling the trigger. This can be done very quickly when the adrenalin is flowing. Smoothly drawing and accurately firing a weapon with the adrenalin flowing and the emotions peaked can only be done if you have experienced it and trained for it.

The training for this is not readily available for most people. Half trained, you have the reflexes and become very dangerous. The reflexes have been used against the worng targets and kiled family members, etc. If you have fully fully completed a training program |(prison guard, etc) you may be ina position to instantly switch from driver to killer with all the mental gymnastics this takes. If you gun is at hand, you may be fast enough. If you get one shot off, it may prevent the attcker from getting a shot off at you. But the odds are agains you witha ll those ifs. And, if you were trained, you would know that. Since you are reading this far, it is safe to assume you are not trained to use a gun to kill in civilian situations (which are very different from military actions). In which case a gun in your hand is a danger to you and will get you killed.

Perhaps someone who has been trained and kiiled with a gun will comment about carrying a gun. But my training has convinced me it would be too dangerous to have in the truck for my safety as well as for the legal reasons.

Demmy