CDL Suspention

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Lucifer, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. Lucifer

    Lucifer Light Load Member

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    We need to pressure government to suspend issuing new CDLs for a period of time. Maybe a year.

    We have to end this oversupply of drivers. The driver shortage myth has to be exposed.

    Government funding of these truck driving schools has to stop, And we need laws against the training companies practice of extending easy credit to CDL students. In my opinion it is akin to predatory lending.

    No more new drivers lured into indentured servitude. If a company wants to train someone, fine but if that person gets fired or decides to leave, they walk away free and clear.

    We need a system of commercial driver training and licensing that is more like the way the FAA licenses pilots. When you learn to fly, you work your way up. You don't go from flying a Piper Cub to a 747 in one step. You work yourself up in progressively larger and faster classes of aircraft.

    When I learned to drive, you started with a car or a pickup, then you got a job driving a small truck like an F350 ford,with a dump or a stake body on it.

    Then you worked your way up progressively, Maybe a F600 next, and then into a big single axle straight job with air brakes after that.

    This way you learned most of the skills needed (such as cargo securement) so by the time you started driving a tractor trailer you had all the additional skills you need (other than just driving) and had worked around trucks long enough to know how not to hurt anyone.
     
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  3. 06hd2500lly

    06hd2500lly Bobtail Member

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    That would definetly screw up my plans when I get back home. I will be paying my own way for school though, so no need for handouts here lol. Didnt want to be a slave.
     
  4. Lucifer

    Lucifer Light Load Member

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    Well if a plan like I suggested was implemented, you would start in a non CDL truck anyway.

    I am not saying suspend the issuing of CDLs forever, it just seems like the present system is broken, we need to stop, look at it, address the problems, and then start it up again.

    A progressive system of licensing would help the new guys by assuring that they were properly trained when they got in the seat of a class 8 highway truck. It would also let the guys who decide that trucking isn't for them, to get out before they are in too deep.

    I learned to drive by progressively working my way up to larger and larger equipment. By the time I got into a tractor trailer I already had all the other skills down pat. I had already driven 3 and 4 axle straight jobs.

    In fact my Tractor Trailer training consisted of the boss saying "Swing your corners wide and please don't hurt anyone"
     
  5. marvindenver

    marvindenver Bobtail Member

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    THERE IS ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WILL PAY FOR YOUR SCHOOL THROUGH HUMAN SERVICES ITS CALLED TANF THEY WILL PAY UP TO $3000 FOR THE SCHOOL.IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFO PLEASE SEND ME A PM. MARVIN
     
  6. Lucifer

    Lucifer Light Load Member

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    This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to stop. How much money is the government spending to train drivers who leave the industry after a couple of years?
     
  7. 06hd2500lly

    06hd2500lly Bobtail Member

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    Believe me, the last thing I want is a government handout lol. I got it covered. After Im in, Im in for the long haul. And I wont owe anyone a dime. Lets hold off on that whole idear till Im grandfathered in.
    :biggrin_25525:
     
  8. Lucifer

    Lucifer Light Load Member

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    OK you're in, but please close and lock the door behind you.
     
  9. Highballin

    Highballin Road Train Member

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    Right Why use our tax dollars to train.Allso if big Co,s didnt get tax breaks or grants in other words if it was their money when you was trained you would be put to work not fired and still have to pay loans.They win either way.Your also right about starting small then work up to a biiger truck.Lots safer.
     
  10. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    It's good that you see a big problem with inexperience drivers and the rip-off CDL mills. However, you method or solution is not the answer either. You can not deny the rights of people to seek better employment. Why not just go through the records of all drivers and the ones that have tickets loose their CDL?

    Better training is needed, but it will take either government manadates and monitoring or monetary incentives.
     
  11. bigredinternational

    bigredinternational Light Load Member

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    Ya know, if you really want a monopoly on your services to raise your wages you could become a lawyer or Doctor. They make more money. You only need to fund 7 to 11 years of post high school education to get there. Oh and once you graduate you still can't work until you pass your state exams and it takes just a bit more that backing up between some orange cones.

    It took me 7 years to earn the right to sit for the BAR. It took me three weeks to earn my CDL and be "team driving" across the nation in the dark with my eyes held open by toothpicks. There isn't a driver shortage. There is a shortage of FMCSA officials willing to enforce the HOS rules in a way that makes companies responsible for violations instead of drivers who never had a real choice. Any responsible, law respecting driver, can't help but want to get away from the rule breaking companies and the rule following companies are always fighting an uphill battle when getting contracts from shippers because they have to compete against unethical competition. Shut down bad carriers and all drivers will earn more and have better otr lifestyles.

    BRI
     
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