No 34 hour reset ever needed ?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Desperado, May 3, 2008.

  1. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    One of the main differences between Canada and U.S. HOS is that, up here, you MUST have a 24 hour consecutive period off-duty at least once every 14 days. Unlike the U.S. where, as you pointed out, a driver can work continuously so long as they are not exceeding the 11/14/70.
     
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  3. Lone Ranger

    Lone Ranger Light Load Member

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    There ya go. Back in the day of no reset, I would worry if, on any day, I got a low hours day because that meant I could have a short day next week when I might need the hours. So I was always looking into the future when considering my logs, and how to manage my time.

    My rule was to not log over 10 hours a day total, and every 8 days take a day off. If I got a day off in the mean time, or a real short day, that would reset my plan of 7 on 1 off.

    The killer of the plan was the 4 or 5 hour day, then I knew that sometime next week I had to make another 6 or 5 hour day to even it up.

    I hope I didn't just confuse someone out there. :biggrin_25523:
     
  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yeah I wasn't trying to get to much into Canada regs. The 24 hour is just a "break" right? It doesn't reset your 70/7 day?

    US is 70/8 day rule so most are in compliance even if they are not in compliance in the US if they have that 24 hour break.

    Am I wrong on the 24 hour break, it's just a break # least in a 14 day. It doesn't reset your 70/7 day? :biggrin_25526:
     
  5. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    You are right, a 36 hour break is required to reset.

    The intent with the 24 hour break is to ensure that there is at least one full day's rest in every 14 (or before the 80th hour if on the 14/120 cycle).
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Ok that's what I thought but wanted to make sure (guess the doubt in me was wondering :)

    Thanks a bunch :biggrin_25525:
     
  7. Rawlco

    Rawlco Medium Load Member

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  8. roadkill4512

    roadkill4512 Medium Load Member

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    If you drive 9 hrs a day you will run out of hrs on the 8th day. 7x9 =63 plus .25x7 =1.75 hrs for safety inspections for a total of 64.75hrs. that only leaves you with 5.25 hrs on the 8th day and after your safety inspection you only have 5 hrs to drive.

    I agree with Logs in that when you have freight you run it. Often times you don't have much control over when and how long you run due to live loads and appt times. If all your trips are drop and hook with huge time windows and you never run JIT stuff or never have appt times then yeah you can set your own schedule, but in this economy I don't see that happening for too many drivers.:biggrin_25512:
     
  9. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    no argument - I was playing with numbers in an imaginary world. I figger, drive until I can't (hours/tired/butt falls off), take my 10 or whatever, and drive again. If I get there early, everybody loves me. If I get there late, I did my best.
     
  10. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    A 34 hour reset must be off duty without a load from my understanding, so sitting in a truck stop for 34 hours while loaded, waiting for the delivery time to roll around is not legal. Correct me if I am wrong please. this receiver will not take the load early, And I will have 35 hours of down time, sitting here in the poconos
     
  11. 25(2)+2

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    As long as you log nothing on lines 3 and 4 for 34 hours, it is considered a restart. It is on duty time that counts. Technically you are responsible for the load when you are sitting, but you aren't logging that responsibility.
     
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