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    Quote Originally Posted by Brickman View Post
    Call your state DMV office and ask them.


    I don't think you need the endorsement for an empty new trailer, but don't take my word for it.
    No Haz-Mat if it has no Placards.As for tanker better call DMV for every state you go through.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gary123 View Post
    Hey fellow trucker's! I stumbled onto this cool website looking for info on a question I had. Chiefly speaking, I have had a CDL since 1982 and have been driving 18 wheeler's up until 2 years ago, when I made a job switch to working in the Water & Sanitation field. My question and situation is, the Construction side of Water Works needs me to drive their water truck to a jobsite. But it dawned on me I don't have a tanker endorsement on my CDL. So how do I handle this one? I no longer work on the constuction side, I'm on the meter reading/customer service side of the Water Dept, but I'm the only one with a CDL, so in the past they have "used" me to drive the dump truck with the backhoe and trailer etc. So I need to know the laws and fines etc. for driving without the tanker endorsement, so I can gingerly & professional explain to the agency that I "no can do". By the way it's a County Goverment job, so you would think that they would not allow it to begin with. So any info would be helpful thanks guy's n Gals out there in the wind
    A Tanker Endorsement is just another written test (it was 50 Q here in Michigan) and just another $5. Why not just get one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobull60 View Post
    OK here's another ??? about tankers. Can a driver fly out of state and drive a brand new tanker that has never been used back to the home state of the purchaser without HAZ-MAt or Tanker endorsements? Just a CDL "A" ???
    You can pull any tanker: new OR used without a HAZMAT if it has NEVER hauled HAZMAT or it has been purged. However, you still need the tanker endorsement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPappa View Post
    Anyone know how often you need to renew your hazmat endorsement?
    Every time you renew your license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highballin View Post
    No Haz-Mat if it has no Placards.As for tanker better call DMV for every state you go through.

    That's not entirely true about no placards. If it's had hazmat in the tank before you're required to have the tank blown down or de-gased and issued a certificate that the tank is gas free. If it's a new tank then you can show the paper work that you just picked up the truck and it's never had any product loaded in the tank. As far as the endorsements goes the officer can say it's a tank and you need the endorsement. Some might let you go without it but why not just get the endorsement since it's so easy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GasHauler View Post
    That's not entirely true about no placards. If it's had hazmat in the tank before you're required to have the tank blown down or de-gased and issued a certificate that the tank is gas free. If it's a new tank then you can show the paper work that you just picked up the truck and it's never had any product loaded in the tank. As far as the endorsements goes the officer can say it's a tank and you need the endorsement. Some might let you go without it but why not just get the endorsement since it's so easy?
    Last time I looked the Placards have to stay on till tank is cleaned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highballin View Post
    Last time I looked the Placards have to stay on till tank is cleaned out.
    If it hauled volatile fluids, you HAVE to have it PURGED and a certificate that it has been done, as Gashauler and I both have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highballin View Post
    Last time I looked the Placards have to stay on till tank is cleaned out.
    Or you can fill the tank with a material that doesn't require placards. I know of one major oil company that would fill their gasoline tankers with water instead of paying someone to de-gas the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill439342 View Post
    If it hauled volatile fluids, you HAVE to have it PURGED and a certificate that it has been done, as Gashauler and I both have said.
    Well I think thats what my post said.Cleaned out or purged same thing.And when this is done the company that done the work will give you the certificate when you pick it up.Law is the Placards stay on till its cleaned or purged.Its still a Haz-Mat load till this is done.You will get a ticket for this same as running with Placards after it was cleaned.

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