man some of you guys need to learn trucking 101. dot says you have to keep in your log book 8 days of logs with you when working. and then you have to keep the six months prior for auditing purposes if you are audited thats the law

Uh....yeah...too bad the real law is different from your law:
(k) Retention of driver's record of duty status. (1) Each motor carrier shall maintain records of duty status and all supporting documents for each driver it employs for a period of six months from the date of receipt.


(k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.

I said 14 days because I believe SNI requires their drivers to keep the past 14 days on hand, instead of 7.

The notebook is not needed if you keep the logbook as the logbook is a document you sign, verifying its correctness. Plus, if you keep the bills of lading and such until you send them in, that also works as another means of verification.
or...log it as you do it. I did this originally but now instead of doing a roller coaster all day long, I just park the truck and complete the logbook then. I mark off when I start the day and get rolling and if Im ever stopped somewhere, Im well within my 11 hours of driving and such. Plus I have the signed papers that state I delivered at such and such time that day. Not a good habit to get into, I admit...but I got pulled in two times for credentials check. One had me get the logbook current and the other didn't even say anything.

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do the math seven days plus the day you are on =8 days and wait till you get audited and dont have them to match up with what you have done

yeah well go to FMCSA and find me the regs on what the driver needs to produce. The carrier needs to keep a copy of the logs for six months.

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Owner operators with their own authority have to keep them as you say. Otherwise, a company driver is the same as others have been posting. Read ziggystyles, he has posted the actual law.

Its not that hard to get a looseleaf binder and 3 hole punch. Every time I fill up a log book I pull out the log sheets punch holes in the carbons and into the notebook they go. Santa leaves me a new notebook in my stocking every year and I start a new binder Jan 1.

Well, to tie this thread up...I told the safety officer of the company to "pound sand". I told him he can't come to me at some random date and request me to recreate log pages. I told him unless the company has a requirement to keep logs beyond 30 days (which they don't), I do not want him contacting me for log book pages older than 30 days. I may not have a job tonight when I go get my truck, that would be alright (and I told him that too)...I've kept all of the correspondence from both my dispatcher and the safety officer.

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Me, I see no reason to not keep logs permanently. The problem with NCR paper copies (what May uses) is that anything can add a line or even blot out sections with just a bit of pressure. So, I scan 'em and save 'em. Each run has its own folder containing logs and scanned copies of all the other paperwork involved. Folders are named with the trip number and shipper name. Folders are also inside folders named for the month - which,in turn is inside a folder named for the year... you get the idea.

A scanner/printer can be had for a mere $70 or so.

Driver's Daily Log makes a lot of this a whole lot easier,too.

I normally log it as it happens, but I've gotten sloppy on this run. I'm not off- just not been current, and that bugs me no end.

As for a trucker's bible - I have something similar, I guess. I keep a spreadsheet that has all pertinent information - trip number, trailer number, origination, destination, commodity carried, time spent on lines 1,2,3, and 4 for the trip, whether I deadheaded anywhere and how many miles, paid miles, odometer miles, MPH, intermediate stops, detailed directions to shipper, detailed directions to receivers, start date, delivery date, trans-flow receipt number, and date it was transmitted.

The spreadsheet is ok, but I'm probably going to set up a database with the information instead. MySQL and I get along rather well, and it's more convenient in the long run than a spreadsheet

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I am like you Lurch all logs are kept all bills of lading are copied and go in the folder and I also have all miles, deadhead miles, delivery/pickups on the laptop so when JJ asks where he was on such and such a date its a simple matter to just look on my laptop.

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I would love a blank copy of that spreadsheet.