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I have a question on Chaining Loads down. I am in the military and seen a few diffent ways but wondering if they are right or wrong.

Case number 1 chaining a load using 1 chain and 2 binders on each chain using different sides of the vehicle as tie down points.

Case number 2 The Navy teaches you to cross chains under vehicles but most civilian rigs i have seen are not crossed is there any benifit to this?

Case number 3 on a trailer using the edge of a trailer and the binder as the tie down point with a screw type binder binder the trailer has a piece of metaL there to prevent the binder from moving forward. some people say the only thing you should use is the rings to tie down.

Any Information regulations will be helpfull

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I have a question on Chaining Loads down. I am in the military and seen a few diffent ways but wondering if they are right or wrong.

Case number 1 chaining a load using 1 chain and 2 binders on each chain using different sides of the vehicle as tie down points.

Case number 2 The Navy teaches you to cross chains under vehicles but most civilian rigs i have seen are not crossed is there any benifit to this?

Case number 3 on a trailer using the edge of a trailer and the binder as the tie down point with a screw type binder binder the trailer has a piece of metaL there to prevent the binder from moving forward. some people say the only thing you should use is the rings to tie down.

Any Information regulations will be helpfull

Thanks for your answers
Doug
I criss cross one or two chains on coils shotgun. Suicide you are not allowed to criss cross. I use one binder per chain. Ratchet binder is what you are describing. No; I attache the binder to the chain, not the rubrail. Some co's tell you to put the hook in the inside of the state pocket and around one spool. Others say go around 2 spools and put the hook facing out on the chain.
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I criss cross one or two chains on coils shotgun. Suicide you are not allowed to criss cross.
I'm assuming you're referring to placement of the coils on the trailer? Which way is shotgun and which is suicide?
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Suicide is the eye of the coil facing the sides, shotgun is the eye facing fore and aft.
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Suicide is the eye of the coil facing the sides, shotgun is the eye facing fore and aft.
Thanks, Native Dancer! I learn something new here every day. I'm not sure I've ever seen a coil loaded shotgun. Does the driver have a choice how the coil is loaded?
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Thanks, Native Dancer! I learn something new here every day. I'm not sure I've ever seen a coil loaded shotgun. Does the driver have a choice how the coil is loaded?
Sometimes you do. It depends on the customer. If they don't have a dock and use a fork truck they want the hole to the side. Crane unloads can take it off any way. I personally like to load suicide. Cargo should never move, but it is the drivers job to make sure it doesn't. Personally if I were to lose one I would rather it go through the cab and kill me than come off and land on a carload of kids.
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Sometimes you do. It depends on the customer. If the don't have a dock and use a fork truck they want the hole to the side. Crane unloads can take it off any way. I personally like to load suicide. Cargo should never move, but it is the drivers job to make sure it doesn't. Personally if I were to lose one I would rather it go through the cab and kill me that come off and land on a carload of kids.
It's interesting that you mention that, Tarps. There are very few trucks that I'm reluctant to drive behind... but flatbeds hauling steel coils are one of them. I guess it comes from being around the steel industry in my younger days. Improperly handled, those things can be nasty.
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Test for ya ducks... coil loaded eye to the sky???
It would be interesting to see how you secure it, but more so how you'd load and unload it. And I have no clue what it's called...
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It's interesting that you mention that, Tarps. There are very few trucks that I'm reluctant to drive behind... but flatbeds hauling steel coils are one of them. I guess it comes from being around the steel industry in my younger days. Improperly handled, those things can be nasty.
Most of the time it will come forward or off to the side. You are probably safer behind a truck. Kind of like being stuck on a track. Run towards the train so when it hits the truck it doesn't take you out as it hurdles forward....
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