Originally Posted by Timtruck

We just went through this scenario with a driver at our company, and I just was relaying the info that he was told that got him a $850 ticket that the company fought and lost. And the company was told that they key to this IS NOT DRIVING after hour 14, He could have worked for ever, but not drive without the full 10 Hours. BTW, I am not wrong on the 34 either, just because psanderson doesnt see it that way, does not mean that states dont--facts of the matter are how many times will you get stopped by Federal DOT? I have never even seen a federal DOT car, but I see a lot of state ones and this and that is how they are seeing the 34 hour break, you honestly think that I would be relaying it that way if I didnt have any experience personally with it. Well $478 in NY state says I do.

Originally Posted by Timtruck

Your scenario is wrong acording to the rules. You have to utilize the 2 hour break or your scenario does not work read the rule. The rules say that you can WORK, but NOT drive after the 14th hour. and you cannot drive after driving 11 hours unless you have a FULL 10 hour break and that includes the 2 hour part. I didnt make the rules up DOT did. The only change that they have made is the 2 hour part, if you dont utilize that, then you cannot extend the clock. You also must have NO violations from the previous weeks logs in order to get by with this, and you must utilize a 34 hour break in order to utilize this and cannot carry your hours over into the next week. Last time I checked 8:00 one day to 6:00 the next was 22 hours-how can you get a full 14 hours in that and a 10 hour break? You cant, thus your scenario doesnt work, because you would be driving after the 14 th hour, rules say you can work, but not drive. You can extend your work shift the way you proposed, but you could not drive.

Originally Posted by LogsRus

I don't have time to link you but if you chose to split break (well now they call it differently however same "thing").

If you take 8 hours in the sleeper you can extend your 14 hour period, however for the 8 hour sleeper break to be completed you must take the 2 hour break # or before the 14 hr extension.
And actually you don't have to take it before or at but before you want to drive again you must take the 2, however any time you are on line 4 will only shorten the next "14 hour period".

Word it how you want but the 8 hour break will extend the 14 hour period and at the end of that extension you must take a minimum of 2 hr or a 10 hr. The 2 will not start your 11 & 14 over, the 10 will restart your 11 & 14 hour period.

This was done quickly as I am trying to run home to the nice warm comfy bed!

Originally Posted by Coonass

Logs I started my logging day at 10 pm last night, I got loaded and drove 3hrs then got in the sleeper for 8 hrs. I woke up at 10 am and finished my run which totaled 5hrs driving. So the 8 hrs I spent in the sleeper extended my 14hr clock by the 8hrs I had in the sleeper correct??

I would like Logs to answer this one.

Originally Posted by lostNfound

Regarding the bolded portion of your post;

A driver who operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle equipped with a sleeper berth, as defined in Sec. Sec. 395.2 and 393.76 of this subchapter, (A) Must, before driving, accumulate (1) At least 10 consecutive hours off duty; (2) At least 10 consecutive hours of sleeper-berth time; (3) A combination of consecutive sleeper-berth and off-duty time amounting to at least 10 hours; or (4) The equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty

(A) The term "equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty'' means a period of (1) At least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours in a sleeper berth, and (2) A separate period of at least 2 but less than 10 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth or off duty, or any combination thereof.

(stolen straight from [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . )

The way you've written it sounds like even though the driver has taken the eight hour portion, they must still take another 10 hours off-duty before being able to drive again.

Originally Posted by bangngears

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