The only way to fill out one log sheet for more than 1 day is to be OFF DUTY!

Off duty means you are away from the truck for the time frame of your log. Such as our logs are midnight to midnight. So my drivers have to be off duty from midnight to midnight for more than one day to use that one log sheet for several days.


If you are at a truck stop for 2 days and you are going in and out between off duty and sleeper then you will need to fill out a log sheet for each day. Meaning 1 log filled out with each date showing the time in and out of sleeper/off duty.

To fill out the log sheet the below MUST be filled out at the minimum:

1) Date your company requires (scannable logs JJ Keller 0801 are 1st day at home for a FULL 24 hour period goes in the date box). Most are the 1st day at home for a full 24 hour period but some are the last date at home for a full 24 hour period. It will be either or though. It won't be the day you "got" home if that's in the middle of a working day.

2) Truck # if you have one show it, but if you don't then you don't have to write it in. I used to tell my drivers if you didn't take your truck home with you then don't write it in so when/if you need to know if the truck was with you are not on time off look at the log. But I like the drivers to always have the truck #.

3) Driver Id/employee code/number if your company has one for you, most do because logs cant read the signatures l.o.l.
4) Draw the 24 line off duty, total hours to the right, then total to the bottom for total hours. Should always be 24. There is only 24 hours in a day but you are allowed to use that one log for several days.
5) Put "off duty", City/State & date range you was home for 24 hour periods (not required by dot but definately you should to help confirm exact dates you are off incase you did something wrong on filling out the log. The log auditor can apply the logs correctly manually.
6) Scannable logs makes you fill in a box with the # of days off.
You. It usually wants to know how many days are you filling out this log for. Like if I was off from 12/25 to 1/10/09 then I could (legally)

date box: 12/25
Remarks section: 12/25 Through 1/10/09 off duty Indianapolis, IN

# of days off box: 12 days. Because I was home 12 days full 24 hour periods (of your "log" time).

Now some logs can be different but that's the basic JJ KEller 0801.

BUt if it ask for the # of days off I bet it wants the 24 hour (log period) you was off only. If I get home # 10:00 and my new logs start with 11:00 then I was not off until the following day and the day I got home would not be included on my total # of days off.

The main thing is you understand you must be OFF DUTY to fill out one log sheet for more than 1 day.

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yeah i just got a love letter for logging 2 days, between sleeper and off duty

redo and move on

whould have been nice to know a month ago though cyber......LOL

I never log line 2, I always log off duty if it's 10 hours or more, I won't split log. Never been an issue with logging off duty every night for over thirty years. I don't care if I'm on the road somewhere taking a day off, or at home. If I'm relieved of duty, it's line 1

But by strict interpretation of FMCSA duty status definitions "off duty" in a truck does not exist . If you are in a truck you are either on duty not driving , driving , or sleeper berth . But that's the definitions . They contradict themselves and say an unladen CMV can be driven a reasonable distance for food or lodging while off duty . If you really want to nitpick you can say you have to do a pretrip before driving . This would be on duty and could interrupt a 34 hour restart .

Im sorry it just hit me due to another thread this is a very mis-understood logging issue

But now you know I helped confirm your auditor is correct, l.o.l.

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"Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then."

Im sorry but one day you are going to run across an officer that will correct you with the mis-understanding of the regulations.
Split breaking is when you take a break of 2 hours on one period and later take an 8 hour break.

If you take a 10 hour break and you go between lines 1 & 2 this is not a split log. 10 hour breaks can be gotten by 1) 10 hours sleeping (body in sleeper 10 hours. 2) 10 hours off duty (body not in the sleeper at all). 3) lines 1 & 2 totaling 10 hours.


Question 26: May a driver record sleeper berth time as off-duty time on line one of the record of duty status?

Guidance: No. The driver's record of duty status must accurately reflect the driver's activities

If you are under dispatch and away from the truck eating, showering etc and your company does NOT relieve you of responsibility then you must log it on-duty not driving.

If your body is in the sleeper you must log in the sleeper.

Question 2: What conditions must be met for a CMV driver to record meal and other routine stops made during a tour of duty as off-duty time?

Guidance: 1. The driver must have been relieved of all duty and responsibility for the care and custody of the vehicle, its accessories, and any cargo or passengers it may be carrying.

2. The duration of the driver's relief from duty must be a finite period of time which is of sufficient duration to ensure that the accumulated fatigue resulting from operating a CMV will be significantly reduced.

3. If the driver has been relieved from duty, as noted in (1) above, the duration of the relief from duty must have been made known to the driver prior to the driver's departure in written instructions from the employer. There are no record retention requirements for these instructions on board a vehicle or at a motor carrier's principal place of business.

4. During the stop, and for the duration of the stop, the driver must be at liberty to pursue activities of his/her own choosing and to leave the premises where the vehicle is situated.

Below is the link to many questions regarding the above. It's confusing I know but if you are away from the truck and you log in the sleeper an officer can write you up.
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"Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then."

If your off duty for 2 days anywhere, and you have no reason to move your truck, there is not anyreason not to long it all as off duty line 1. Arguing this point is just creating a unneed confusion. Stay out of the drivers seat. You can not even sit in the drivers seat snd be off duty. The only time you need to be real careful about using s;eeper berth is during split logging.

If your going thru a DOT inspection, use your right to keep your mouth shut. Most drivers get them selves in trouble running the mouth while the cop is looming at your book.

Amazing how many people crack under silence.

Another one is think about and answer the question that is asked ... not what you "think" they asked. Ask them to repeat the question if necessary.

Wrong . Sleeper berth time must be 8 consecutive hours to count as off duty .It doesn't matter if the 2 hours off duty is taken immediately before or after the 8 or at a later time . The sleeper berth time must be 8 consecutive hours . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

You can sleep for 1-hour, go in the truck stop for 1-hour & keep repeating that process for the entire 10-hour period so long as you do it for 10-consecutive hours, and it will be perfectly legal too!!!!!!!

The only place the mandate requires 8-hours of sleeper berth is when you use the split rule. If you take your rest all at once it doesn't matter so long as it's 10-hours. If your safety director told you that I'll tell him to his face that he's full of what you're trying to shovel in this post. Blind leading the blind!!!!!

I suggest you'd better read a little more carefully from the FMCSA website address you attached to your post.

I defy you to show either LogsRus, or myself anywhere, other than the split rule, where the rules in 49 CFR state that there must be 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper to count as anything because you can't find any such thing.!!!

You're in this business to make money for you and your family. Do you not think it wise to understand the rules better than the above statement to keep making money and not losing it to some cop? Or perhaps you should heed the advice Re. keeping quiet.

I apologize if I seem cranky. My Mother did last week & I'm not in the mood for rediculous statements such as this.

Here it is from 395.8.....there is nothing about sleeping 8-hours to count.

(2) Sleeper berth. A continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time off duty resting in a sleeper berth, as defined in Sec. 395.2. (If a non-sleeper berth operation, sleeper berth need not be shown on the grid.)

Then when you read the split rule at 395.1(g) of the rules you'll find the only place where 8-hours counts. But I'm not posting that rule here because it's too long & would take too much space. Instead I merely suggeast you read it CAREFULLY.