CA: Citation for parking on interstate on/off ramps

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dynosaur, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. dynosaur

    dynosaur Light Load Member

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    I was heading to Phoenix on I-10. Stopped at the truckstop in Indio at about 3 am to get my sleeper-berth time. I was out of hours. The truckstop was full so I hit the on-ramp and pulled off onto the shoulder, well away from the fog-line, and went to sleep. At around 7 am DOT wakes me and asks for my logbook. He saw that I was out of hours but nevertheless cites me for parking in an 'Emergency Stopping Only' area. Thinking it was a parking ticket, I paid it only to discover that I was also assessed 1 1/2 pt.

    Now, this is the problem with California. What this cop is telling me, I should have continued to drive until I found a rest stop or legal parking, but I am in the Mojave Desert---there's nothing! I guess in his view, it's better to violate the HOS rather than parking laws.

    As, you enter Utah, eastbound, there is sign after sign, saying "No Stopping", yet there are also signs saying, "If You are Drowsy, Pull Over". They correctly see that a drowsy driver is more of a threat than one parked on an on-ramp.

    I would be interested to know what the experiences are of other drivers encountering this situation. It is not uncommon in California. In fact, a month or so later, while giving the truck a good cleaning, I found a citation for the same offense, given to the previous driver and left behind.
     
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  3. davan2004

    davan2004 Light Load Member

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    Was the ticket written by the same cop?
    GETTING POINTS FROM PARKING?!?!?! WTF!!!!
     
  4. Biker

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    This is something I've noticed during my short time on the road. Most states do not provide for adequate parking for us to pull over to stay within the HoS rules. Wish the government would step in and blackmail the states into fixing this issue.
     
  5. RECON08

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    sorry to say it, but comes down to poor trip planning.we all now at 3am the truck stops are full and like you said, nothing out there, you basically did what a lot of drivers do, to a gamble, and lost. sorry if you don't like my post, but is just the plain truth, even safety will tell you the same thing.
     
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  6. Biker

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    Sorry. There are times when you have absolutely no choice but to be on the road late. There's been many times where I've been at the shipper long enough for a 10 hour break, and then once loaded, have to burn some miles in order to make the delivery on time. Driving during the day and stopping at 4pm to ensure I get a parking spot is a pipe dream in many cases.
     
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  7. RECON08

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    I understand that, but at the same time, proper trip planning will keep things like tha t from happening. But at the same time, if you have to run that hard to make it, tells me your running funny book, not cool, not worth your lic, your life or someone elses, and when you get busted, company aint going to bail you out. I will never understand drivers who wont take blam for thier actions, its always someone elses fualt, or are willing to run illegal as hell for the same cheap rate of pay, then are mad when they get fired for doing it, or get popped by DOT for doing it, makes no scence. I log what i do, everytime, and still get my miles legally everyday, and still bring home a half way good paycheck and good sound mind doing it. If i sit that long, I tell my dm that I can't make that next del or pu time and send in a safe and legal time as to when I can, and never have I had a issue with it.
     
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  8. MGASSEL

    MGASSEL Road Train Member

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    If you sat at the shipper for 10 hours and then need to turn and burn.
    All you would need to do is send in a message on the qualcomm telling the company to reset the delivery time as it took the shipper so long to get you loaded.

    I have had to turn and burn before but I would not do it and put myself in a place were there would be no parking.

    Even if it would mean I would only drive for 5 hours then shut down again.

    I most of the time shut down about 5-7 pm that way in most areas I have parking if there is not parking I would still have time to find a spot.

    I was up in Montana once and I had to find a place to shut down but I ended up going over by 1 hour because on the roads the company had me on there were not too many truckstops I could find.

    I ended up stopping in superior montana at a ''truckstop'' it had a dirt lot for three trucks I got one there was a car blocking one and another trucker took the other one and the A@$hole blocked me in.

    I was backed up to a dirt pile and the trucker pulled in beside me but the driver put the back of the trailer even with my front bumper with the rest of his truck continuing in front of me so I could not get out untill that person left thankfully not long after I got up.
     
  9. Biker

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    The couple of times I've had to do this was on a weekend. Nobody at the receiver to reschedule with. Thankfully, I don't have a problem with driving at night, so usually I just run until early A.M., then stop when most everyone else is pulling out. :)
     
  10. dynosaur

    dynosaur Light Load Member

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    You are absolutely right. The nature of the company I was working for at the time, coupled with their account delivery needs, made it difficult to pre-plan. Nevertheless, probably one of my biggest faults is a lack of planning. Drive until I'm out of hours, then look for a place to pull over. Haven't been driving for the last year, but start with a company on the first of February. One of my first priorities is to make an effort to plan trips.

    That said, let me add that on another occasion I had a conversation with DOT regarding this subject, here's the gist of he, he said: "We recognize the lack of truck parking and for that reason 'look the other way' when we see trucks on the shoulders of major interstates.' Problem is that it's not policy to do so, therefore it's a too up as to whether you're going to get cited or not.
     
  11. dynosaur

    dynosaur Light Load Member

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    Yep, same cop. The thing is, he was an old gray-haired veteran, not some gung-ho rookie out to clean up the trucking industry. I don't feel so strongly about the fine, but, the 1 1/2 pts? You bet! That directly impacts my ability to work at my trade.

    Also, in addition to Utah; I was cited for the same thing in Oregon during the winter. DOT drove up while I was parked on the shoulder (it was snowing heavily and I had stopped to check the road for ice). He brushed the snow back with his foot and exposed the fogline, which I was on top of. He cited me, BUT I did not receive any points.

    It's just wrong to assess points for such a negligible violation, a punishment that is way out of proportion to the violation
     
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