psanderson... Question.....
A driver begins day 1 with 70 hours available. He is on line 3 or 4, 14 hours a day (11 on, 10 off, 3 on... remainder carrys over to the next day at midnight). On day 5 he hits his 70 hour limit. He takes a 34 hour reset and starts fresh with 70 hours available at the beginning of day 7. He works 10 hours, and takes his 11 hour break. At the beginning of day 8, he has worked 80 hours in 8 days.
Is this not legal?
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OK- I found this...
Seems the FMCSA defines "60/70/80 hours" as a category in the MCMIS Catalog under section 395 violations :
http://mcmiscatalog.fmcsa.dot.gov/beta/Catalogs&Documentation/documentation/csp/ins_CD.asp
Perhaps it should be called the 60/70/80 hour rule from now on.
11 hour rule violation (Property)
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by smokyjuan, Apr 8, 2009.
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I didn't add your hours but I will assume them to be correct. But once the driver took the 34-hour restart said driver had 70 again. The 34-hour restart does just that. It restarts the clock each and every time.
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And you had to explain this tough one for what reason? Wonder why so many get HOS violations, especially with the 34 restart, yet many still complain of the rules change.
I guess they don't realize the actual gain drivers got with the restart option. Yet so many still whine about having to take 10 off instead of 8. Maybe these guys and gals can figure out how to do some preventative cleaning (windows, mirrors, lights) during the time they are sitting throwing their coins in the parlor games at the truck stops. -
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Once they get up and start working, most drivers are not wanting to disrupt their 11/14 hour clock to go someplace to take a shower. No if they could log off duty and stop the clock to take a shower then many would do that. Instead they resort to a quick cat bath in a sink at a rest stop.
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Reading this post there seems to be some inaccurate information, I appreciate the knowledge of some of the posters who provide the information; however, I have some issues with some of the post:
fourknuckle:
otherhalftw
The officer was incorrect, the 100 air mile exception from the log is an interstate regulation; therefore, provided, you have a time record with your start time, end time, total hours on-duty, was released within 12 consecutive hours, and had 10 hours off-duty the timecard is acceptable and no log is required.
The interstate rules apply to the seven days before and after an interstate move, IOW, you could not have more than 70 hours on-duty in eight days provided the carrier operates 7 days a week, other wise it would be 60 hours in seven days.
psanderson
I disagree, there are many carriers involved in interstate commerce that never leave their home state. One example is carriers that deliver air freight from airports. The carriers may be excepted from an MC number as they are operating within the commercial zone as defined by Part 372; however, they are required to have a US DOT number and operate in-accordance-with the FMCSR.
otherhalftw
About 1965 I rode with my uncle from Sacramento, CA - Susanville, CA. We always went through Reno to get there; the move was interstate commerce as the route crossed state lines.
psanderson
The hazardous materials regulations apply to the packaging, labels, shipping papers, HM training, HM security plans, etc. Not the HOS. An intrastate HM move may be moved under an intrastate commerce HOS; however, the CDL, D & A testing, and HM would be governed by 49 CFR.
Be safe.Last edited: Apr 26, 2009
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