Need some logbook help

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Zephirus, May 22, 2009.

  1. Zephirus

    Zephirus Light Load Member

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    Hey everyone, things have changed a little bit from when I drove a truck in the past. Im hopping back into a truck next week with a very small company. I looked over the new rules and I want to make sure I have this down. DOT fines suck...


    • I can only drive a maximum of 11 hours per day
    • I can work anytime but with the 14 hour rule, I can only drive a truck within 14 hours of coming on duty
    • I need a straight 10 hours of off-duty which includes 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper to reset the counters for the next day
    • In the past 7 days I can only drive for 60 hours total

    All the rules make sense to me except the 60/70 hour rule. Lets say I drive for 11 hours each day, that pretty much has me sitting out a day to reset the clock or to wait for the first day's driving to clear. I know that no driver will be going 11 hours a day everyday due to all the other aspects of the job.

    I know there are several tricks but this is the basics of it right? I plan to drive early and hit it hard after my pretrip. Call it quits in the late afternoon that way I can eat / shower / sleep before doing it all over again.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I normally drive from the afternoon to the morning. Anything that I'm not going to get paid for will be logged into my 10 hour break (tire repairs, slow shippers,...etc.
    There are several ways that you can make the new rules work in your favor(some questionable...not going to go into that as you just need to start with the basics), utilizing the 34 restart is the key for me. Under the old rules, you could blow 1000 miles a day, but there was no restart back then and you had to wait to drop the days off the recap. With the restart, you can get a full fresh 70.

    Happy motoring.
     
  4. bigcountry30

    bigcountry30 Light Load Member

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    Yep you got it. You can also get a full restart by taking 34 consecutive hours off duty. That will start you back at zero unlike the old HOS rules. Good luck.
     
  5. Chain Drive

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    loose leaf log sheets, throw down a hand full and kick on 'er!
     
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  6. terrylamar

    terrylamar Road Train Member

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    This is incorrect. You need a straight 10 hours off duty. It can be off duty or sleeper berth or any combination of the two, just as long as you don't go on duty or drive. (This does not address split logging.)
     
  7. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Hey yard bird I tried calling you the other day....
     
  8. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    Triple Six is correct except............11 plus 10 equals 21 correct. But before you begin the next 11-hour driving period you must pre-trip the vehicle pursuant to 392.7 which reduces the other 3-hours. It is legal as he/she suggests to work beyond the 14th hour so long as that working time was not driving. An example would be doing the post-trip and completing the vehicle inspection report pursuant to 396.11 after the 14th hour. This is legal as you weren't driving after the 14th hour but it also takes you further into the 24-hour period before you begin your 10-hours rest which also reduces the driving time in that 24-hour period. If you take your rest all at once as you suggest there is nothing in the rule that requires at least 8-hours in the sleeper.

    From a retired federal DOT official
     
  9. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    And thats 13.5 hours driving time available if you show a pre-trip and a post trip flagged as on duty-not driving. Do the regs state that you have to flag both the pre-trip and post trip as on duty-not driving?
     
  10. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    I show 15 minutes on line 4 to pretrip and flag the post trip.
     
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  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I have worked for companies that required both to be at least 15 minutes.
    It basically comes down to the company policy as well as the dot rules.
     
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