Overweight loads

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by txviking, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. trip571

    trip571 Light Load Member

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    The way I see it, CSA 2010 will slowly grind out the drivers that refuse to refuse a load, it is not worth it to have a DOT ticket to help a company that would put me in a position to loose my job, and not be able to get hired on elsewhere. Give it time and it willl happen, we all will be out of the job for running something illegal...

    So I dont care if the company picks up the fine what about the points, those are ours to share.
     
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  3. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    stop being paranoid guys. Already been in contact with out insurance company about overweight tickets and he said due to the fact a lot of trailers are drop and hook they weren't going to make them a major violation which is why there is no direct mention of them on the new rules.
     
  4. truckerdad57

    truckerdad57 Light Load Member

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    Then ask your insurance company about how they will handle a lawsuit involving an accident when you are hauling an overweight load?

    What I have learned is that if you are in an accident when hualing an overweight load the plaintiffs attorney will roast you alive......

    For me and the company I run for... IF the load won't scale legal it goes back to the shipper.... if it comes off the rail in CHI from CA.. then it goes back on the rail to the shipper.. and the shipper pays... its all in the contracts.. Shippers that pay double freight bills a couple of times quickly learn not to overload....
     
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  5. Half a Load

    Half a Load Light Load Member

    It's not paranoia, it's common sense. And the insurance company isn't the one writing the tickets. "to make them a major violation" implies that they will be minor violations? If it goes on my license, it's not good, no matter how small. Two wrongs don't make a right...if you want legal loads, you have to stop pulling overweight loads, regardless of whether the insurance company thinks it's a problem or not.
     
  6. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    99% of all the loads we've hauled in the past few years were all over 80k. They were either steel or grain. Ohio even gives you 4% over gross on state highways for grain, which means no they're not going to grill you because your within the limits for the products. Is 83,000 over gross? Yes, but it's still within the 4%. I have trucks that cross the state scales almost daily way over 100k and most of the time they're over on certain axle groups (by as much as 10k) and not once has they been pulled around to check to see what's the truck is even hauling, let alone if he has a permit. A lot of states have different weight allowances for certain products which means it's not about safety. It's about who padded the right pockets. Even crappy states like CA allows trucks to exceed the magic numbers. The way shippers remove all liability with loading trucks heavy is to not have scales on the property. You can't sue me if I had no way of knowing your weight.
    Remember 80k is the limit unless your hauling steel, grain, milk, logs, coal, shipping containers.........ect. Almost every state has exemptions for something, you just have to do your homework.
    Sorry, but my employer doesn't care if I have an overweight (no points) violation on my license and neither does my insurance company. If your hauling overweight loads and not getting paid more for it then I agree, your an idiot.
     
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  8. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Overweight tickets do not go on our driving record here, I average one or two a year most years.
    I know the small overweight tickets that you pay right at the scales in lowsiana has no paper trail either, or didn't a few years ago.
     
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