Originally Posted by Scalemaster

Just because you have E-logs does not mean you get a free pass.

We check a lot of E-logs, and it is the driver's responsibility to know how to retrieve the information for us. You still have to show me the same information as on paper logs.

Missouri has always been known as "the show me" state.

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EOBR bill introduced in U.S. Senate

By Land Line Staff

The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association responded to the announcement by U.S. Sens. Mark Pryor, D-AR, and Lamar Alexander, R-TN, on Thursday, March 31, that they were introducing a bill to mandate electronic on-board recorders (EOBRs) for interstate commercial motor carriers.

“With all due respect to Senator Pryor, EOBRs will not improve highway safety. However, they sure will cost small-business truckers their hard-earned money and their privacy,” said Todd Spencer, executive vice president of OOIDA. “EOBRs are nothing more than overpriced record keepers lobbied by big business trucking companies to wipe out small-business competition.”

EOBRs cannot accurately and automatically record a driver’s hours of service and duty status. They can only track the movement and location of a truck, and they require human interaction to record any change of duty status. Therefore, such as in the case of loading and unloading time, the device is incapable of determining the actual duty status of drivers without interaction from drivers indicating to the device that they are on-duty. Loading and unloading time should typically be logged as “on-duty, not driving” in order to accurately reflect the hours a driver has worked.
OOIDA also contends that the government has ignored a federal statute to ensure that EOBRs will not be used to harass vehicle operators. An analysis conducted by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration said that “companies use EOBRs to enforce company policies and monitor drivers’ behavior in other ways.”

“Companies can and do use technology to harass drivers by interrupting rest periods,” said Spencer. “They can contact the driver and put on pressure to get back on the road to get the most of his or her on-duty time. This mandate would be a step backward in the effort toward highway safety and is an overly burdensome regulation that simply runs up costs.”

Copyright © 2011 OOIDA

My 2 cents is I cannot stand someone that tells me to plan my trip better.

People that say this obviously work for one of those elite companies that never have late appointments or have drivers working weird hours. And must run coast to coast.

Answer me this if Wal-Mart came out tomorrow and stated trucks could no longer park at any of their stores where would we be?

With just the amount of companies out there already trying the E.O.B.R. Parking has really gotten scarce to non existent for us late runners.

So are you telling me that I should just get loaded then go straight to bed to ensure I get a parking spot then drive the whole distance as soon as I get up to arrive exactly on time. Only to be stuck behind a accident or sit at the receiver and be out of my 14. Not to mention I just wasted a whole day "trip planning" better.

Some people live in fantasy land or they work for Wizard of Oz Trucking.

And yes I am one of those guys that still parks on a ramp if need be because I'm tired and have looked for 2 hours after 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. only to find nothing.

Originally Posted by Madbull

My 2 cents is I cannot stand someone that tells me to plan my trip better.

People that say this obviously work for one of those elite companies that never have late appointments or have drivers working weird hours. And must run coast to coast.

Answer me this if Wal-Mart came out tomorrow and stated trucks could no longer park at any of their stores where would we be?

With just the amount of companies out there already trying the E.O.B.R. Parking has really gotten scarce to non existent for us late runners.

So are you telling me that I should just get loaded then go straight to bed to ensure I get a parking spot then drive the whole distance as soon as I get up to arrive exactly on time. Only to be stuck behind a accident or sit at the receiver and be out of my 14. Not to mention I just wasted a whole day "trip planning" better.

Some people live in fantasy land or they work for Wizard of Oz Trucking.

And yes I am one of those guys that still parks on a ramp if need be because I'm tired and have looked for 2 hours after 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. only to find nothing.

One thing many overlook. If, as in your scenario, you have time to drive and time for the 10 hour break, where and when you take the break is not relevant. 10 hours of driving and 10 hours of break will always be 20 hours. Drive 5,6,9 hours to parking and take the break. Somewhere in that distance you can find safe and legal parking.

Originally Posted by Rodeo_Joe

be prepared to run with a printer in your truck. from what I have read is if u get pulled over u have to still provide a hardcopy. Meanin you gotta print it off an sign every copy.

Seems someone informed you wrong. You can faz them to any scale office that wants to see them in about 5 minutes,,,i dont need no hard copy and i dont need to sign them......fyi

Originally Posted by Madbull

My 2 cents is I cannot stand someone that tells me to plan my trip better.

People that say this obviously work for one of those elite companies that never have late appointments or have drivers working weird hours. And must run coast to coast.

Answer me this if Wal-Mart came out tomorrow and stated trucks could no longer park at any of their stores where would we be?

With just the amount of companies out there already trying the E.O.B.R. Parking has really gotten scarce to non existent for us late runners.

So are you telling me that I should just get loaded then go straight to bed to ensure I get a parking spot then drive the whole distance as soon as I get up to arrive exactly on time. Only to be stuck behind a accident or sit at the receiver and be out of my 14. Not to mention I just wasted a whole day "trip planning" better.

Some people live in fantasy land or they work for Wizard of Oz Trucking.

And yes I am one of those guys that still parks on a ramp if need be because I'm tired and have looked for 2 hours after 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. only to find nothing.

I have been on e logs for almost 5 months. With that being said my miles have not changed much. We have lost some customers that delayed the trucks and would never pay detention. You have to really plan your trip, A lot of times you cant drive all your hrs you got cause you have to be able to find parking. Driving over your hrs regardless of what ever the reason is a volation, and no parking is not a excuse. With this being said, i would not go back to paper logs. I get preplanned before i empty and its alot less of a head ache. e logs is coming it may be a year or two out...but it will happen. The company i work for decided to get on them sooner so we could iron out all the trouble.