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kajidono · **^ Top** #11 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by lv gn

i cant do that. GPS would prove what happened.

Yeah true, but you have proof to back it up. For those of us like me with no tracking devices, we'd have to bend our logs to fit the paperwork. I'd have to go down to the next exit or something and sit to burn the time up till my log matched, just to make sure.

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #12 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by kajidono

Yeah true, but you have proof to back it up. For those of us like me with no tracking devices, we'd have to bend our logs to fit the paperwork. I'd have to go down to the next exit or something and sit to burn the time up till my log matched, just to make sure.

My problem is the opposite. I did not use 45 minutes of on duty time. My delivery ended up being made in a time that makes logging it that way impossible.

lv gn · **^ Top** #13 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

My problem is the opposite. I did not use 45 minutes of on duty time. My delivery ended up being made in a time that makes logging it that way impossible.

i think you did the right thing.

kajidono · **^ Top** #14 3 Weeks Ago

Well, like I said before, they've rigged the whole system against us. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

truckerdave1970 · **^ Top** #15 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

Can't wait till 2010 to get here.

I had a level 1 in Missouri Tuesday.

Got another one in Indiana today. Told the officer I had just got one. She took the info off the other one and did the inspection rather quickly.

Paperwork has the wrong times on it. Shows it as 45 minutes long when it was less than 20 minutes.

If I log it to match the document, I have completed a false log.

the real question is how many violations did they discover and how many did they miss???

kajidono · **^ Top** #16 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

My problem is the opposite. I did not use 45 minutes of on duty time. My delivery ended up being made in a time that makes logging it that way impossible.

In my case it'd just make the delivery that much later. That's one of the main reasons I stick with flatbed. Appointments? Hah!

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #17 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by kajidono

In my case it'd just make the delivery that much later. That's one of the main reasons I stick with flatbed. Appointments? Hah!

Can't. Called in at the arrival time and delivery. Was not until well after that I noticed the time differences on the sheet.

Besides, why should I lose duty hours?

I still have to run another run over the weekend and be in Dallas on Monday morning and Houston in the afternoon.

rookietrucker · **^ Top** #18 2 Weeks Ago

FMCSA to Host CSA 2010 Listening Sessions

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The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is now accepting registration for two public listening session webinars in December on the agency's comprehensive safety analysis 2010 initiative.

The sessions are aimed at informing the public on the latest progress of CSA 2010 and answering any questions from industry stakeholders.

Each webinar will be a 90-minute live, interactive session. Part one will provide an overview of CSA 2010 and operational model test results. It will be held on Thursday, Dec. 3, 2009. Part two will cover CSA 2010 from a motor carrier and driver perspective, and will take place Thursday, Dec. 10.

To register and submit questions for the webinars, visit csa2010.fmcsa.dot.gov/listeningSessions. Registration closes Nov. 30.

Written comments regarding CSA 2010 can also be filed to the Federal Docket Management System at www.regulations.gov.

FMCSA to Host CSA 2010 Listening Sessions

rookietrucker · **^ Top** #19 2 Weeks Ago

CSA 2010: The enforcement

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You could probably flip a coin to decide which scares a trucker more – a full-blown, on-site compliance review or an IRS audit. Neither one is a pleasant experience. They are both lengthy, burdensome processes.

The on-site compliance review – currently pretty much FMCSA’s only tool in its enforcement arsenal – is such an involved process that with current staffing levels, fewer than 2 percent of the motor carriers in the country are audited each year.

That too will change with the launch of CSA 2010.

After all of the violations are entered, chewed up and spit out of the CSA 2010 Safety Management System, motor carriers will be rated in all of the BASIC compliance areas. The higher the ranking percentile, the more noncompliant the motor carrier or driver. These rankings will be updated on a continual basis.

Those rankings will help FMCSA enforcement personnel determine what method of enforcement – now called interventions – to pick. Enforcement will no longer be a one-size-fits-all scenario.

Enforcement can be triggered by:

more here>> CSA 2010: The enforcement

truckerdad57 · **^ Top** #20 1 Week Ago

This thread brings up the whole issue of data challenges in the CSA 2010 system.

There is no way that I could see for a driver to get incorrect information in the CSA 2010 system fixed.

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