Would I have to log?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by stlwaco, Nov 18, 2009.

  1. stlwaco

    stlwaco Light Load Member

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    I just started a new job. I drive a 24' box truck local (STL). I know I dont have to make a DOT log if I am a local driver. But my boss told me that I might have to run a load to Indy and deadhead back. For making a regional delivery for just that one day every couple months, do I have to make a DOT log for that trip?
     
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  3. pdeitrick

    pdeitrick Light Load Member

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    CYA if it requires a CDL and its over 100 air miles form your home terminal you should probably log it. I would just show local work in st. louis for the previous 7 days on the log make the trip to Indy when I got back SAFELY throw it in the garbage. IMO
     
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  4. jeepskate99

    jeepskate99 Road Train Member

    Yes. If you go to Indy you want to log it. Logging is easy. It's better to have one than explain why you don't need one.
     
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  5. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    You say you run local, do you know what the requirements are to run local and not need a log book? Everyone is required to have a record of duty status. The 100 air mile exemption does not get you out of maintaining your hours worked. It just makes it a little easier than filling out the grid style log book. Here's the short haul exemption for driver's driving a CDL required vehicle (100 air mile exemption) and the CMV driver that driver a non-CDL vehicle (150 air miles):

    (e) Short-haul operations

    (e)(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of Section 395.8 if:

    (e)(1)(i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;

    (e)(1)(ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;

    (e)(1)(iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

    (e)(1)(iii)(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

    (e)(1)(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or

    (e)(1)(iv)(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and

    (e)(1)(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:

    (e)(1)(v)(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;

    (e)(1)(v)(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;

    (e)(1)(v)(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and

    (e)(1)(v)(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.


    (e)(2) Operators of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles not requiring a commercial driver's license. Except as provided in this paragraph, a driver is exempt from the requirements of §395.3 and §395.8 and ineligible to use the provisions of §395.1(e)(1), (g) and (o) if:

    (e)(2)(i) The driver operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle for which a commercial driver's license is not required under part 383 of this subchapter;

    (e)(2)(ii) The driver operates within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work, i.e., the normal work reporting location;

    (e)(2)(iii) The driver returns to the normal work reporting location at the end of each duty tour;

    (e)(2)(iv) The driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each on-duty period;

    (e)(2)(v) The driver does not drive more than 11 hours following at least 10 consecutive hours off duty;

    (e)(2)(vi) The driver does not drive:

    (e)(2)(vi)(A) After the 14th hour after coming on duty on 5 days of any period of 7 consecutive days; and

    (e)(2)(vi)(B) After the 16th hour after coming on duty on 2 days of any period of 7 consecutive days;

    (e)(2)(vii) The driver does not drive:

    (e)(2)(vii)(A) After having been on duty for 60 hours in 7 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier does not operate commercial motor vehicles every day of the week;

    (e)(2)(vii)(B) After having been on duty for 70 hours in 8 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier operates commercial motor vehicles every day of the week;

    (e)(2)(viii) Any period of 7 or 8 consecutive days may end with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours.

    (e)(2)(ix) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:

    (e)(2)(ix)(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;

    (e)(2)(ix)(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;

    (e)(2)(ix)(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day;

    (e)(2)(ix)(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
     
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  6. stlwaco

    stlwaco Light Load Member

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    Based on what you posted. I just have to clock in and out every day. I only work 8 hours a day and have plenty of time off between work times.
     
  7. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    But don't forget that 100 mile radius rule. St. Louis to Independence is a heck of a lot further than 100 miles, so yes, you will have to log it.
     
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  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    But when you go to Indy have a copy of your work records for the past 7 days with you . You don't have to enter those days in a log book but you do need proof you have driving hours available . You will have to log the day you drive .
    I'm assuming you have a medical card .
     
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  9. stlwaco

    stlwaco Light Load Member

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    Right. I read the first part wrong. lol

    Yup. Keep it in my wallet.
     
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