Advanced logging - Split sleeper berth explained

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Rawlco, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Condo, as long as your explanation is clear to you and you turn in a legal log, my friend. It is complicated at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's not that bad.
     
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  3. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Thanks Injun. It was the question of the 8 hrs stopping or resetting the 14 hr clock that was confusing. That wording should be left out of the rules and just say the 14 hour clock must be followed. Only a 10 hour break can reset the 14 hour clock. It keeps refering to at least 8 hours and less than 10 hours. The wording can be simplified.
     
  4. ironpony

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    Absolutely wrong. The 14-hour and 11-hour clocks are counted from the END OF THE BREAK PRECEDING THE ONE YOU JUST ENDED when calculating a split break. The 10-hour break will absolutely reset both.

    Lets say you ended a 10-hour break, drove for three hours, went to line 4 to load, then went off duty for 2 hours... so right now your break sequence looks like:

    10 - 2...

    Your 14 and 11-hour clocks are counted from the end of the 10-hour break, and you have 8-hours (11 - 3) of drive time left. Your 14-hour clock is more complicated - its 14-3-[line 4 time to load] - 2. Thats 9 - whatever you logged on line 4 to load.

    So lets say you drive 5 hours, then take an 8-hour break entirely in the sleeper... the break sequence now looks like:

    10 - 2 - 8...

    Your 14 and 11-hour clocks are now counted from the end of the 2-hour break, you have 6 hours (11 - 5) of drive time left. Your 14-hour clock has 9 hours on it (14 - 5,) because the 8-hour break doesn't count against it.

    Any combination of a short break of at least 2 hours and 8 hours in the sleeper will reset both the 11 and 14-hour clocks from the end of the first break used to calculate the split.
     
  5. TheHealthyDriver

    TheHealthyDriver Heavy Load Member

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    Make it easy.

    Drive 11, don't do more than 3 more hours of on duty, not driving, so that you don't go over your 14, then take 10 off in the sleeper. Repeat as necessary.
     
  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Make yourself unavailable for loads...

    Master split break logging, and use the rules to increase your availability - decrease your sittin' around time.
     
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  7. TheHealthyDriver

    TheHealthyDriver Heavy Load Member

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    I still got myself 3000+ miles a week without splitting the sleeper berth, when I ran south.
     
  8. Wiseguywireless

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    Exactly Why I split break.
     
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  9. DickJones

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    actualy you dont. you can start your split with either one....its just that your 2 hr break dont stop your 14 hr clock. If you take your 2....you pretty much have to start your 8 before your 14 is up....it sounds more difficult to read everyone's thoughts on the subject than it is to actually do it.
     
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  10. CondoCruiser

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    That's what I say, lol. You say one thing you get two or more conflicting answers. Then you say the other way and you get two or more conflicting answers.

    It's easier to get the magic pen out! :)
     
  11. Injun

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    Ironpony, Please think about how you presented your information. We aren't talking about that time not being counted back to the end of the last break period. We are talking about a clean reset, which, since you are on e-logs, should be clear to you.

    If we are talking about a clean reset wherein you have 11/14 available from this minute forward, you have to be coming off a 10. There is no other way to completely reset the 11/14 unless you are coming off a 34. A split sleeper will not do it.

    I understand what you are trying to say. Many others will not.
     
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