Advanced logging - Split sleeper berth explained

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Rawlco, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yes it is correct: Why is it correct?

    You started # 1:15 pm so your 14 hour was up # 3:15 am the next day. You took 8 hours in the sleeper so that extended your 14 hour until 11:15 am the next day. You only drove 3 hours before your 8 so you technically had 8 hours available to drive. However you only drove 3 hours and then you took your 2 hour break. Your total driving time was 6 hours and you did not drive passed 11:15 am. Now that you took your 2 hour break your 14 hour restarted from the end of the 8 hour break (12:30 am) so 14 hours later is 2:30 pm. Which you was not driving passed 2:30 pm and the driving time before the 2 and after the 2 did not total but 6 hours of driving.

    So that's why you was not in violation. I see totally why you had to split break. If delivery was # 3:45 then had you not split breaked you would of been late because your original 14 hour ended # 3:15 am thus you wuold not have been able to drive anymore # 3:15 am.

    Just a good example of why you would need to split break anyhow, even if that isn't the full facts l.o.l.

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  3. rubbergearsnextyear

    rubbergearsnextyear Heavy Load Member

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    Thanks logs! Phew..... You got it right the original 14 woulda screwed me but I could have driven straight there and slept but I felt bad so i decided to go for the split and thanks to you, I knew what to do (sorta lol) Sleep tight!
     
  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    you are welcome glad I can help
     
  5. sidewinder429

    sidewinder429 Light Load Member

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    OK log's I got it. My bad, I was fixated on the fact that only the 8 is excluded from the calculations. Thank You.
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Your fine that's how you learn by asking :)
     
  7. LostBoy

    LostBoy Light Load Member

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    ok, ive pretty much got it.

    if i take an 8, and my previous break was a full 10, my 14 is reset correct? as long as i take a 2 hour break somewhere in the concurrent 14....
     
  8. Cressler

    Cressler Light Load Member

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    If I start my day at 1530, take a 2 hour sleeper berth between 1800 and 2000, and have driven 6 hours between 1530 and 0130, then take 8 hours in sleeper berth (till 0930), what time does my new 14 hour window end? Thanks
     
  9. steeleon1972

    steeleon1972 Bobtail Member

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    I remember Schneider saying when the regulations changed. Quote " only 5% of our drivers split logs." Well I can guarantee way more than 5% of their team drivers split logs. I liked the way it was a few years ago, as I split logs properly and it alllowed me to run better and feel more rested. I can agree the split logging as it is now is mostly useless, and is way more confusing. They should go back to the way it was. It was simple enough for average intelligence to understand.
    The reason it was changed is that PAT and Crash seem to think we all were only sleeping only during one of the sleeper splits 8/2 sleep the 8 not the 2. etc. mainly.
    Realize that you can have a bad nights sleep with just the 10 off.. noise, just can't sleep etc. But now we cant get a nap in and still be ontime with some loads.
    Of course if you are overtired you sleep and be late with load. But that can be avoided by having the ability to stop the clock. There are too many drivers that would worry about their delivery and maybe have a bad accident because they have to deliver on time. Accident rates will be down this year because less trucks on road(bad economy) not because of HOS as it is.
     
  10. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    Since logs doesn't seem to be around, I'll take what I've learned from Logs and the FMCSR and try to help out there.

    The 8 doesn't reset the 14, it's EXCLUDED from the calculation of the 14-hour clock. Basically, your break ends 22 hours from when you originally started your day, until you take the 2 hour break, then you get to count your 14 hours from when the 8 hour break ended.
     
  11. CMoore2004

    CMoore2004 Road Train Member

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    Looks like your new 14-hour window ends 14 hours after 2000 (10am the next day).
     
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